I sharpened my programming "teeth" in MS-DOS and TANDY DOS with GW-BASIC
( god have mercy and protect me from bloddy line numbers and AUTONUM
commands ). I also learned C++ ( the very old and not so lamented
Borland C++ ) on DOS 6.22 ( boy was that an advance huh? the wonderful
MS antivirus that pretended to do stuff and actually just hung up things
). Sometimes I wish I could go back to those days when I see how "dumbed
down" interfaces are becoming. I used to have to innovate to make
working on the computer easy -- then again theres much to be said for a
20GB hard drive being more space then youll ever need. I want to get
into the penguin circle but I cannot find enough options to replace my
development tools, with the money I have spent on Macromedia Studio and
Adobe Create Suite CS2 as well as Visual Studion 6 and .NET, the only
options would be free versions or being stuck with Gates' black hole.
On that topic - anyone know of a quick ( and cheap ) way to successfully
integrate windows and Linux without all of the hassle involved with
coLinux or the other "emulation" systems? I would like to be able to
develop Perl and C in a native *nix environment
Cheryl D Wise wrote:
I too used command line DOS, wrote my own batch files and created menus,
etc. in DOS because I hated typing in the same danged thing every time I
wanted to launch (much less install) a program.
Thankfully I have forgotten most of it though I will admit there are a few
things I will still drop down to a command line to do, ipconfig, ping,
tracert, etc.
Cheryl D. Wise
MS FrontPage MVP
http://mvp.wiserways.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Glasgow
year ago. As far as I can see it needs command line instructions to load
any programs (there are a few very basic ones already in) and I have
not
Boy, I'm glad that when I started with MS-DOS 3.11 back in the eighties that
stuff wasn't required. Oh, wait... I forgot. It _was_ required. Had to go
through all that nasty stuff like learning the operating system, how the
file system worked, FDISK, FORMAT, the PATH and all those other nasty
environment variables, batch files... you know, all that ugly ol' computer
stuff, before I could actually get anything done on my... umm, computer.
Sorry, Joseph, couldn't resist. ;-) The way you worded that, "As far as I
can see it needs command line instructions (GASP!!) to load any programs...
," as if a command line were some sort of mysteriously inscribed pentagram
into which only the most intrepid and powerful wizards might venture, was
just was too big an opening not to take a shot at.
FWIW, I don't know one-tenth as much about the xNix command line as I did
about MS-DOS, and probably never will. At the time, it was not an option to
NOT know DOS if you were a programmer and power user (an archaic term which
referred to Those Who Knew); it was a given. Now, I write application
programs, and develop Web sites, for the Windows environment, so it's not
strictly a necessity anymore for the environment which is my current milieu.
here?"
<snipped>
The command line is still powerful, even in these XP times. Occasionally
when I have a problem nowadays I drop to a command prompt to run ipconfig,
telnet, or some other CLI-based app that is still the best and most
appropriate way to do things. I've even written a few cmd (batch) files for
various purposes. For example, to switch between HOSTS files when the
customized one I've got (to block 95% of Web advertisements) blocks a site I
want to see. There are still tasks which are done much more efficiently at
the command line than in Windows. DEL *.bak /S from the root of a drive will
banish every single file with a "bak" extension from the drive without
having to search them out in Explorer and mark them for deletion. Changing
the attributes of all those read-only files you just transferred from CDR
requires only ATTRIB -r *.* /s.
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