Tim, 

Think of public_html as wwwroot.

I know many who are not willing to install PHP 5 on production servers.
Haven't nor have any of the hosts we use. At our local user group we had a
commercial host come and give a presentation on their experience with PHP 5
on their test server. They reverted to 4.

Working on live sites? Are they crazy?

Cheryl D Wise
MS MVP FrontPage
http://by-expression.com
Online instructor led training http://starttoweb.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Furry, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

1. I work in a mixed environment. My machine is Windows XP, using
Dreamweaver/PHP for development (I'm fine with that, although PHP and
Dreamweaver are both new to me).

2. All the websites I'll be working on are internal in nature. Corporate
rules forbid localhost servers, meaning I can't build and test my stuff
using IIS off my machine (well, I can, but only I can see it...the
firewall prevents anyone, including my boss, from seeing my work if I do
it that way). All internal websites are served using a Unix machine
running Apache; it's set up with specific website folders, and also to
recognize "public_html" folders under each user (that's new to me,
coming from a Windows world); I can copy my files out to my user area on
that machine and see them fine. In fact, Dreamweaver sets up beautifully
to do that, using either FTP or Samba shares against my Unix public_html
folder. No problems so far...change things in DW, save the changes, the
changes are instantaneous in my public_html folder, and I just refresh
my browser pointed to that page.

3. I don't have any control over the Unix box. In fact, it looks like
the people who do are fairly unresponsive (I asked for PHP5 to be loaded
several weeks ago and it still needs to be done). So I have limited
control over directory structure and no control over Apache (which is
essentially fine with me).

4. Internal web development needs to be under change/source management.
They want to use a tool they've already invested in (Telelogic's
Synergy), which is geared more towards a normal development environment
of (non-web) software builds (i.e. regular developers use
checkout/checkin/local work areas on the Unix box through terminal
emulators to make their changes, do local builds, etc., and the tool is
smart enough to pull files needed from the trunk and use local work area
changed files to produce a modified build for local testing).

Up to this point, internal web development has not been terribly
structured and is usually done by interns working over the summer. I'm
the first full-time hire to handle the needs. Development was usually
done against live sites as the only working copy.

What I'd like to get to is a separate Unix development directory with
limited access privileges, checkin/checkout processes, rollbacks and
diffs and versioning and tags; along with a "live" area where tagged
"builds" are copied to for release to the general users. I can't use
Subversion or other tools that are normally bent to shape for web
development (gotta use the Synergy). There will be multiple web devs
from multiple locations working on some of the stuff at any given time.


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