>     However... Ted Nelson, arguably the father of Hypertext, published a
>description of it in the mid seventies. Vanevar Bush or someone like that
>may have said something like that even earlier.  Ted Nelson, in the two
>sided book "Mad Lib" / something else, said that one would move the cursor

ROTFL! Urm, the book was called "Computer Lib"...."Mad Lib" was a book
where you fill in blank words and make funny stories. FWIW, "Computer Lib"
is *still* one of the most amazing books on computers. If you can ever get
your hands on a copy, I would jump on it.

Some info on Nelson is at http://sensemedia.net/xanadu (a page I put
together years ago...I hope all of the links still work). For a
well-written summary of the history of collaborative hypermedia, see the
first part of http://sensemedia.net/woods (WOODS = web object-oriented
distributed server).

Also, it's Vannevar Bush.

But I think this thread is confusing hypertext vs the world wide web.
Hypertext is much older. But to say you were doing world wide web sites
earlier than a particular date would be quite false. OTOH, I believe that
date is in the 80's, so it is plausible that one has been doing web sites
since 1991.


>
>     Ted Nelson, in his Xanadu project, had a scheme called
>"Transclusion", in which one could quote blocks of text from others, with
>attribution, and later in his Xanadu Project with AutoDesk, actually
>charge some miniscule view for each view of that text.  He was trying to
>set up franchises, like data storage equivalents of your local hamburger
>joint, which would hold and serve your text, back up your disks, as well
>as provide some sense of community.  I did not see the resulting system.

Oddly, Ted's favorite method of 'hypertext' now is thousands of little
sticky notes posted everywhere.  ;-)   He is not overly fond of the world
wide web and doesn't believe that it realizes what he dreamed of for
hypertext way back in the 70's.

Kayla


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