>at least magic mushrooms, marijuana, lsd et al ton't promote violence
>towards one's fellow man.

Surely, you jest?

>For the record, I despise violence of all
>kinds. But then, I'm an ex-soldier (Parachute Regiemnt, British Army)

As do all good and decent human beings.

>fascination with firearms that promotes so much violence in your nation
>I do not begin to understand. Have you never considered why it is that,
>almost alone among nations, the United States is the place where school
>children take firearms to school and massacre their schoolmates? Not as
>an isolated incident, but with almost monotonous regularity.

Once again the naive notion that the interest in self-preservation is actually a 
"fascination with firearms" rears its hideous head. Actually, it's an obsession with 
self-determination, and the idea that the law, to the extent that it's purpose is to 
ensure the reign of justice (or more correctly, the absence of the reign of 
injustice), has no other business than to compel individuals to not trespass against 
one another. Regarding the productive pursuits of humanity, the law should get the 
hell out of the way.

As for the idea that the availability of firearms somehow encourage violence, that 
shows a stark lack of critical thinking. Guns have been widely available in the united 
States for centuries. If their availability was the cause for the widespread, rampant 
massacres we experience over here (said with tongue firmly in cheek), this epidemic 
would have occurred long ago. Conversely, in many nations whose state denies its 
subjects the right to bear arms, there is found no less a violent crime rate. The only 
difference is the weapon of choice.

>There is rather a difference between a community struggling against
>colonialism and the oppression that derives from it and having every

No community is _ever_ free from the struggle against 'colonialism' and oppression. As 
long as there are governments, there will be those who seek to abuse them and usurp 
power via a perversion of the law. Liberty can not be passed on by inheritance, and 
can never be assumed. Each individual must do his own part to ensure continued freedom.

>Of course not. It'll be the result of a leftist, communist, atheist,
>drug-taking hippy consipiracy including the US government, the United
>Nations, the Catholic and Anglican Churches, the Democratic Party,
>Blacks, Asians and women, won't it? <grin>

All stereotypes aside, I think we could limit it to the result of the implementation 
of socialist philosophies.


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Paul Mullen
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"Each of us has a natural right--from God--to defend his person, his liberty, and his 
property. These are the three basic requirements of life, and the preservation of any 
one of them is completely dependent upon the preservation of the other two. For what 
are our faculties but the extension of our individuality? And what is property but an 
extension of our faculties?"  -- Frederic Bastiat, _The_Law_ [read it. it'd do you 
good.]

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