Guys -- CF is a supplement to your web server. You can run the  HTTP server
on UNIX and do your perl stuff there. The CF Application server is
secondary.


HTTP Request >>> Web Server >>> sees .cfm extension and passes to CF App
Server >> makes DB Calls, executes >> creates HTML file >>> passes HTML
file back to web server >>> passes back to browser.

More [opinionated] comments below:


At 2:07 PM -0500 8/1/98, Peter J. Schoenster wrote:
>On 1 Aug 98, at 12:41, Susan Duncan wrote:
>
>> Peter J. Schoenster wrote:
>>
>> > But if I were on any unix/linux platform I would use mySQL (or
>> > msql) and perl and DBI.  And I would see that mod_perl is
>> > installed;not that I have used it yet but from what I have read and what
>> > everyone tells me, it is the best way and as far as I know you lose no
>> > functionality.
>>
>> If you know Perl inside and out, it might be the best solution for you.
>> However, Cold Fusion is far easier to learn than Perl (yes, I've done a
>> little perl modification).  Cold Fusion may not be free, but there are
>> many hosting companies that now offer it as part of their package
>> <plug>check out our hosting</plug> or for a small additional fee.
>
>I don't think I would use Perl on NT.  From what I now CF is only
>availalble on Solaris and NT.
>
>I wonder about the intended market for CF. Is it a "look your
>secretaries can use this".  I then wonder about the future.

NO Peter, It's Not. You need to understand SQL. You don't need to be a
master -- but then, you don't need to be a *master* to do Perl/CGI/DB
either.

The exact same arguments you make can be made about Perl/CGI/DB applications.



>Should web/database development be left to people who have not
>studied database theory/practice etc.?  Will what these people
>imagine as possible now be dependent on their grasp of the
>software and not the concept?

Depends on the size of the application -- and what you mean by "study."
I've studied DB but by no means would call myself a DBA. But I can create
small apps that work well -- at the same time, I'm not going to imagine
that I'm a "developer" in the sense that I could create an application that
would be used by the Entire Boeing Co (all 225,000 employees).




>I think the Cold Fusion mind-set would answer yes to this.  Does
>knowing Cold Fusion lead to knowing databases?  The answer to
>using mysql and msql and perl would be no it doesn't -- and I know
>that.

Assumptions here. CF is separate from the DB design. It USES the DB -- if
they are designed poorly, that will affect the CF performance.





Kathy

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