warning, this will not be for the faint-hearted.
On 2 Aug 98, at 0:21, Kathy E. Gill wrote:
> Guys -- CF is a supplement to your web server. You can run the HTTP
> server on UNIX and do your perl stuff there. The CF Application server is
> secondary.
>
>
> HTTP Request >>> Web Server >>> sees .cfm extension and passes to CF App
> Server >> makes DB Calls, executes >> creates HTML file >>> passes HTML
> file back to web server >>> passes back to browser.
As far as I am concered, an excellent resource for web/database
connectivity is Phillip Greenspun:
http://photo.net/wtr/rdbms-backed.html
I am not sure what Kathy was saying above. Will CF run on BSDi or
Linux? I don't think so.
> >I wonder about the intended market for CF. Is it a "look your
> >secretaries can use this". I then wonder about the future.
>
> NO Peter, It's Not. You need to understand SQL. You don't need to be a
> master -- but then, you don't need to be a *master* to do Perl/CGI/DB
> either.
Perl/CGI/DB is not marketed as CF is marketed. There is no company
selling Perl/DBI in the way that CF is marketed.
> The exact same arguments you make can be made about Perl/CGI/DB
> applications.
Yes, anyone who decides to learn Perl/CGI/DBI can imagine himself
much more than he is. I would prefer a poser who has learned
Perl/CGI/DBI over another who has learned CF.
> >Should web/database development be left to people who have not
> >studied database theory/practice etc.? Will what these people
> >imagine as possible now be dependent on their grasp of the
> >software and not the concept?
> Depends on the size of the application -- and what you mean by "study."
> I've studied DB but by no means would call myself a DBA. But I can create
> small apps that work well -- at the same time, I'm not going to imagine
> that I'm a "developer" in the sense that I could create an application
> that would be used by the Entire Boeing Co (all 225,000 employees).
I think you are much more like me. My experience has been that
employers and employees evaluate skills via knowledge of software
programs. I recall once when I was asked if I knew ftp. What an odd
question. I said I could write a very limited ftp "client" via
perl/lwp but I have never created a server. They had no idea what I
was talking about; they just wanted to know if I could use ftp
software, if I knew what ftp was.
> Assumptions here. CF is separate from the DB design. It USES the DB -- if
> they are designed poorly, that will affect the CF performance.
I don't understand that. Perhaps I misunderstand what CF is. Is CF
not a rdbms? Maybe I am off-base on this. Perhaps it is just a gui
version of something like PHP.
I just hate to see things go proprietary. The internet developed in
an open-source environment and this move by MS and other companies to
take it private is anathema to me. Or does CFprovide the source
code?
In addition I keep seeing internet professionals whose only claim to
fame is that they installed MSIE 4.0 or they "surf" the web for more
than 4 hours a week or they have a copy of Front-Page. But I've gone
over this ad nauseam already.
If people want to use proprietary software where they are dependent
on their supplier, so be it. But gee, don't complain when upgrades
are slow and bugs are plentiful. Using a perl/dbi approach a
person's only excuse is personal ignorance.
Peter
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