On 2 Aug 98, at 21:13, Kathy E. Gill wrote:
> Recommend _database design for mere mortals_ .. link off
> http://www.dotparagon.com/resources/bookstore.html
I already bought that book.
>
> At 10:29 AM -0500 8/2/98, Peter J. Schoenster wrote:
> >warning, this will not be for the faint-hearted.
> >
> >On 2 Aug 98, at 0:21, Kathy E. Gill wrote:
> >
> >> Guys -- CF is a supplement to your web server. You can run the HTTP
> >> server on UNIX and do your perl stuff there. The CF Application server
> >> is secondary.
> >>
> >>
> >> HTTP Request >>> Web Server >>> sees .cfm extension and passes to CF
> >> App Server >> makes DB Calls, executes >> creates HTML file >>> passes
> >> HTML file back to web server >>> passes back to browser.
> >
> >As far as I am concered, an excellent resource for web/database
> >connectivity is Phillip Greenspun:
> >
> >http://photo.net/wtr/rdbms-backed.html
> >
> >I am not sure what Kathy was saying above. Will CF run on BSDi or
> >Linux? I don't think so.
>
> ARGHHHHHH.
>
> Peter -- you can run your damn web server on whatever platform you want
> to.
Okay, wait a second here. We are talking about CF - Cold Fusion. The
question is what platforms CF will run on. That is what I asked (I
asked nothing about web servers).
> The CF application server runs on Win95, NT and Solaris with HP-UX to be
> released 4th quarter.
right, I was pretty sure about that. Not linux or bsd. That was my
question.
> >Yes, anyone who decides to learn Perl/CGI/DBI can imagine himself
> >much more than he is. I would prefer a poser who has learned
> >Perl/CGI/DBI over another who has learned CF.
>
> Your bias. Neither skill set suggests you know SQUAT about database
> design.
Yes, and that is exactly what I said going back to my very first
post. But I would argue that the person who took the time, effort,
and courage to learn something like perl/dbi would be more likely ...
but this is getting old already.
> >I don't understand that. Perhaps I misunderstand what CF is. Is CF not
> >a rdbms? Maybe I am off-base on this. Perhaps it is just a gui version
> >of something like PHP.
>
> Since I don't have a clue as to these initials, I can't answer. Perhaps
> someone else can. Or you can always look at http://www.allaire.com/
> >I just hate to see things go proprietary. The internet developed in an
> >open-source environment and this move by MS and other companies to take
> >it private is anathema to me. Or does CFprovide the source code?
>
> ARGHHHH> It's NOT proprietary! It's open -- its ODBC -- and it doesn't
> bloody care what web server you use. Its a rapid development environment.
> Not a helluva lot different from using Oracle Web Server as the
> "application" server and not the primary server.
Seems that someone else understood my point; can't recall who it was.
It is not a question of server; it is a question of O/S.
Ummm.... let me try to put this another way to try and get the
answer.
Imagine your computers crash and burn. You go out and buy new
computers. Allaire has went out of business or someone bought them
and no one is selling Cold Fusion any more. The only copies left are
those who once bought and still have. Can you just re-write your
code? If you could then great. Otherwise you make yourself
dependent on more than just knowledge and expertise.
If the above happened to me I would just buy a new computer, load up
linux, connect to the net and download all the modules etc. that
exist everywhere as they are free and no one owns them and thus no
one can go out of business or get bought up. I then would just re-
write all my code.
I think this thread has gone on long enough. Beginning to waste
bandwidth.
Peter
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