> > There has been speculation that we will return to villages ..as before the
> > advent of printing...though of course connected to each other with the
> > computer...people will work at home.....less travel but again...Man is a
> > herd creature ..and the recent storys ( regardless of how flawed in their
> > inception) show he will always need the physical contact of others of his
> > own kind for his well-being.
Like the old day, with the apartment over the shop, and the village
blacksmith living next to his forge. That is indeed going back to the way
it use to be in Greek and Roman times, and long before, when everyone was
a farmer and a hearder. A better way in many respects, as then your kids
see what the meaning of work is -- doing something for a CUSTOMER.
> > I haven't seen a site that I find useful and that use "new client side
> > technology" and have a very sophisticated design.
> > I think that a sophisticated design is unconceivable with lot of
> > informations (at least at reasonable cost)
>
> Perhaps your right on that....but again the medium is so new that we are all
> still feeling our way through the morass of potential...LOL..and the average
> person who uses the net has his limits too..
Oh, I can see some of the need and utility for Java, an interactive
form which decides a lot of things on the user's machine, then sends back
a request only for what is needed.
The gain? Speed, one transaction vs many. Same for VRML type stuff.
Any other way, and you are trading huge bandwidth for speed, and the
ability to off-load processing from the server.
> > Since there won't be good reason I think that people as Javilk won't
> > use a "modern" browser and I'll continue to surf with JavaScript off.
> > And we cant forget there are people that cant decide (they don't
> > know or they really can't) how to browse a site.
I will turn Javascript on when I get a compelling reason to. Thus
far, every time I turn Java on, the stuff crashes either itself, or hangs
up my machine with some utterly stupid unpteen million colors garbage.
I've even crashed Java at SUN Micro's site!
> > Do you think these "new technologies" have a future?
Sure! We will throw out the usless hype and use what we find useful,
just as we threw away the label "piano assembly tool", and use the
screwdriver to pry open paint can lids, jimmy windows, and even, now and
then, to screw screws. (I wish I remembered the Czech inventor's name...)
> > So will/should we support/develope for these "new technologies"?
Yes!
> > Do you think browsers developers are following the right direction?
I do not know. This is not my revolution any more. What I want is:
1. Annotation saved to MY site, yet linked to the pages I have
visited.
2. Hierarchical mapping and saving of my browser history, with full
modification as a special case of User Modifiable web page. (As per
http://www.mall-net.com/tt/ "The Stack")
3. Notification when anything in my history file changes.
4. Research mode -- my own search engine "Get me more
information/pages like these I've marked"
5. Plastic Text that I can stretch and squeeze, and have
it flow around my notes. We almost have that now, though it uses arcane
notations. (HTML)
I really don't know what I want, neither do most people till they see
how it is useful to them.
Most ideas are crap. Most new technology is useless. Over 90 percent
of everything is just worthless crap!
BUT... if we don't make 100 percent of the new stuff, we won't get
that 10 percent useful stuff nor the halt to one percent you would be
willing to almost die for! (And for all the wrong reasons, too! Once you
start using stuff, you see just how wrong you are about what you thought
it was good for. If you don't get too jaded, you see new ideas come into
the realm of possibility as you muck with your new tools!)
Remember when what's his name, the guy who was Reagan's cabinet
member for education? He dismissed computers in education as nothing more
than "automated page turning". What is the world wide web, but 99 percent
automated page turning? Just like putting a camera onto a book. Remember
the ATT Advertisement?
Only... the page isn't here, and the next page isn't over there
either, one is in Taiwan, another is in Australia, and the next at MIT,
and another at Moscow U. How could you explain that to Mr. Automated Page
Turning, and make it seem useful? He would ask you who in H... would
manage all that stuff. Unworkable rubbish! No one in their right mind
would see any continuity in that.
Well, maybe his generation would not. We don't see the continuity.
We see the CONTENT! And we don't really see it, either. WE put it
together in our mind's eye, just as the lioness puts together the disjoint
images of the gazelle through the grasses and dist clouds as she runs him
down! Real sight, isn't what you see, it is what your mind's eye sees,
linked to all that other experiential stuff in your mind, just like a
world wide web within your mind, the pieces so small, that you don't
notice your memory of that window and the memory of the curtains and the
pattern are from different times.
What's the difference between automated page turning and reading a
book? Only that you are flying all over the world and gaining a depth of
multiple perspectives from multiple authors that force YOU to decide what
is best for YOU!
Already the "Gods of medicine" are quaking in their boots as patients
come in with more information on their own particular diseases than these
doctors could ever get in medical school. Someone else turned the pages,
and did the incremental bit of research that, when linked together by
"automated page turning", opened the doors and saved thousands from lives
of suffering. The information was all there decades ago, it just was not
LINKED together as it is by those useless "automated page turners".
And the FDA, Food and Drug Administration is repeatedly trying to do
everything it can to block information on vitamins and herbs from reaching
us. Why? Because the pharmaceutical companies know darned well that most
of their products are no better than herbs and vitamins! To them, and any
other proprietary knowledge based product vendor, (like MS,) The Web is
The Next Disaster!
The web, Disaster for MS and Pharmo? Yes! They can't tell us that
it must be our machine or body that is so unique and failing. We hit the
web, we see common symptoms listed! And it is clear the it is not just
you!
Already the pharmo industry has managed to virtually ban herbs in
Europe. They know that once patients see how others have side effects,
the doctors won't be able to continue to say this or that reaction is not
related. If you are taking any kind of pills, get a hold of the
Physician's Desk Reference or the Nurse's Drug Reference and look that
pill of your's up, or better yet, LOOK IT UP ON THE WEB! You will see
cheaper products, side effects you thought were not related, and all kinds
of other life saving information the pharmo industry does not want you to
see! Knowledge IS power, and the web gives US, the cash paying public,
the power to see what others have done, have been hurt or helped by, and
thus help us make far, FAR WISER decisions than our parents ever could!!!
What is next? I don't know. To me, Java looks like more automated
page turning, and will continue to look that way till the next killer
application shows up.
Remember, before automated page turning, computers were fancy but
useless calculators... till we got spreadsheets. Spreadsheets sold
computers into corporations! (And Sigh... I wanted to write one before
VisiCalc came out. But idiot that I was, knowing I would have to write a
manual, I worked writing the word processor first...)
That stupid "Automated page turning" is selling computers into homes
and revolutionizing this world.
What is next? Just look at what my stats are showing as the hottest
query on the web -- mp3 -- Audio! Cheap telephony and long distance radio
is the next revolution.
Beyond that, I don't know that is next. I have some ideas... But I
am just a lone guy who can't sell those ideas... at least not alone.
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