Thanks to all of you for your comments. This is my first use of style
sheets, jpeg graphics. I agree with Suzanne, it is overkill.
I agree with some of the comments about Front Page and am looking at other
programs Dreamweaver/Cold Fusion. I love the convenience of FP that lets one
pull a site together quickly. But, it does not clean up after itself very
well. If you make an error and insert a change, it does not remove the old
code.
I have no idea why the site is crashing browsers. I have no problem
accessing with IE4. The server is NT, IIS. It is a Microsoft shop all the
way up and down the road. Perhaps that it is a factor?
I can mirror the site, after I clean up the code, on a UNIX server for
Netscape users  had it on a UNIX server and did not receive reports of it
crashing browsers. I'll try that as well.
The graphic, layout and design comments were extremely beneficial. I will
take your collective advice and re-post it when done.
Oh well, back to the drawing board! :)
Thanks again.

E. P. Walker
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Suzanne
Stephens
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 1998 6:53 PM
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Subject: RE: WC:>: site check please


I tried to look at it twice on NS 4/Mac, and it crashed the browser
immediately upon connecting with your server.

I was curious to see what was going on, so I opened it up on IE 4. This
time it worked OK. A few things hit me right away. First, the big nav
buttons at the top would look much better saved as low bit-depth GIFs
instead of as JPEGs. The JPEG compression cause those ugly little artifacts
that appear around the letters. Second, I would specify border=0 in those
image tags.

Before I could go any further, IE crashed too. Sorry, three times you're
out!

Before this crash, I took a look at the source. Man, I've never seen so
much code to accomplish so little design in all my life!!! A lot of it is
unrecognizable to me, and I've been hand-coding since '94. Looks like it
might be FrontPage proprietary crap. My first recommendation would be to
ditch FrontPage and go with Homesite for the PC or BBEdit for the Mac,
either of which will generate much cleaner code and probably help prevent a
lot of these crashes. Before the last crash, I noticed hints of possible
use of stylesheets. That seems a little excessive for such a simple web
site. I would suggest that you go back and learn some basic HTML so you can
reduce your dependence on FrontPage.

Finally, you've got a bunch of icons at the bottom of the page that
increase your load time without accomplishing much. I would consider
dropping any that aren't absolutely necessary. I don't usually like WebRing
fragments, but the one you've used is kind of sweet. If I were going to use
it, I'd cut out all the other junk from the fragment and replace it with
simple hypertext links, keeping only the little GIF animation.

Suz


>
>
>At 10:49 PM -0400 10/14/98, E. P. Walker wrote:
>>I have received from this list for quite a while and do not recall seeing
a
>>request for a site check posted called "review". However, pursuant to
that,
>>please check the following site:
>>http://www.fatfannieworks.com/KCIC-Ornaments . I know it does not work
well
>>with Netscape, and am working on that. Thanks in advance.
>>
>>E. P. Walker
>>"There is nothing worth preserving at the expense of the truth."
>
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