> > I have no idea why the site is crashing browsers. I have no problem
> > accessing with IE4. The server is NT, IIS. It is a Microsoft shop all the
> > way up and down the road. Perhaps that it is a factor?
> > I can mirror the site, after I clean up the code, on a UNIX server for
> There is absolutely NO NEED to mirror a site on an UNIX server for NN if the
> code is clean. Even if the web server is MSIIS. Most browser crashes are the
> result of code or Java -- *not* the web server!
Agreed on both counts. HTML is just HTML, passive stuff that does
not usually break browsers unless some of the URL's are fantastically
long or such.
Java is one of the main reasons for browser problems, and has caused
one of my clients to have his computer "repaired" several times.
As to your site, I have no idea why it crashes, and have no desire
to find out unless paid to do so. But here's what happened with my
client.
He saw a neat Java marquee scroll program, and lifted it for use on
his site. He runs a Windows machine, and after a while of working on his
site, it crashed. This happened a few times before the crash clobbered
some part of the operating system, and his machine would not boot. So he
takes it in for repair. Walks out with a loaner, goes web surfing, and a
few days later, leaves it up on his site for a while. Boom! Hard crash
again. Takes that machine back, gets second loaner. Hits the same site a
few days later, Boom again! By that time, he calls me, not about the
computer, but about the excellent technical content of the site, dealing
with medical information we are both interested in. I hit the same site,
get a phone call, so I leave the browser on this German site. As I talk,
my Linux machine starts making a lot of disk I/O noises, and within half
an hour, it crashes hard, taking everything down.
On examining the Java code, it was seen making recursive calls to
create a new version of the string that it was scrolling, for each scroll!
Depending on RAM size, in some minutes, memory would fill up, and the
machine would start swapping some of the versions out to the swap file or
swap partition. Depending on swap space, some time would elapse before
that partition filled up, and the system could not run essential tasks
anymore. BOOM! Some systems are more robust than others. His Windows95
machine would probably mess up the allocation table during the crashes.
Eventually, it scrambled files, and could not reboot properly, prompting
an in-warranty service call. With the quality of the service techs his PC
store used... they would send the machine back to the manufacturer! With
Linux runs disk checks every time it powers up after a crash, so it fixes
all the unallocated sectors before the polymerize files. Also, it uses a
partition for swap, so that does not mix with other files. After some
grinding on disk check, it rebooted ok the first time. The second time it
crashed, I wanted to check my hardware, (after all, Java can't possibly
harm machines... can it?) so I used a DOS based diagnostics diskette which
I later learned had a boot sector virus on it! Since DOS is not Linux,
the virus blew up the incompatible Linux boot sector, leaving me
re-booting off of a floppy every couple of weeks till I got around to
re-installing Linux... (This was an earlier version of Caldera Linux, rock
stable in other respects. You could run it for weeks between re-booting.
I've seen Linux and Unix machines that have been up over a year without
re-booting.)
I should say that I have had Java break on many sites, including ATT,
and even SUN! And then there are the ignorami who just glom your
computer's resources trying to give you a razzle dazzle all colors of the
rainbow screen, or other such insanities, making you THINK that a slower
machine just crashed. (Haven't tried this on any of my pentiums yet.)
Since many people have had problems with Java, they turn it off. Java
is not to be relied upon as the ONLY way to do things. Nice as an add-on
to the basics, like mouse-overs and such, but NOT to be relied on, and to
be tested on multiple browsers before being released.
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