i'll build a simple app with a text input and a couple of check boxs
and see how that works.

-wes

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Yarko Tymciurak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Understood - but Bill thinks there's a bug, and is proposing patches;
> Massimo is thinking perhaps you're doing something wrong and no patch should
> be needed - having an example - even if you want to send privately to
> Massimo - would help close this disconnect.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Wes James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Yarko,
>>
>> so far, i can get it to work if the checkbox fields are not hidden on
>> the form.  My problem now is trying to make 'hidden' checkbox form
>> elements.  I don't see any way to hide checkbox elements.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Yarko Tymciurak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> > Wes -
>> >
>> > I think we need a complete - if minimized example which others can use
>> > to
>> > reproduce.  Can you provide?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Yarko
>> >
>> > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:15 AM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> SQLFORM(...,fields=[...])
>> >>
>> >> should be used to determine which fields are expected and which should
>> >> be ignored.
>> >>
>> >> For T2 use
>> >>
>> >> db.table.exposes=[....] # list of field names
>> >>
>> >> Massimo
>> >>
>> >> On Nov 21, 9:52 am, billf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > Massimo
>> >> >
>> >> > I think there is a typo in your point 1) and it should read "update
>> >> > form and it was *checked* in the original record".  The behaviour of
>> >> > the setting the checkbox value is not in question.
>> >> >
>> >> > I believe the problem Wes originally raised is that a boolean field
>> >> > on
>> >> > the database gets set to False erroneously if a form does not contain
>> >> > a control for that field (either hidden or a checkbox).  This is
>> >> > because web2py (any server-side code) cannot distinguish between an
>> >> > unchecked checkbox and an absence of a checkbox.  So the missing
>> >> > control is interpreted as unchecked/false and stored as such.  This
>> >> > differs from other field types where a missing control can and is
>> >> > interpreted as "no change".
>> >> >
>> >> > On Nov 21, 3:28 pm, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > It was mentioned in one of the previous emails. I am not sure it
>> >> > > helps
>> >> > > with the current problem. I am not sure I understand the current
>> >> > > problem.
>> >> >
>> >> > > checkboxes are always unchecked unless:
>> >> > > 1) update form and it was unchecked in the original record
>> >> > > 2) create form and corresponding field has default=True
>> >> >
>> >> > > Are you saying this is not the case or that I am missing something?
>> >> > > I think this is the correct behavior
>> >> >
>> >> > > Massimo
>> >> >
>> >> > > On Nov 21, 8:49 am, billf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > > Massimo
>> >> >
>> >> > > > In what way are you suggesting "SQLFORM and and FORM take a
>> >> > > > parameter
>> >> > > > hidden=dict(key='value')" would be used?
>> >> >
>> >> > > > Bill
>> >> >
>> >> > > > On Nov 21, 2:10 pm, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > Do you have default=False in the database?
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > SQLFORM and and FORM take a parameter hidden=dict(key='value')
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > Massimo
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > On Nov 21, 6:32 am, billf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > I am investigating a possible solution to the above problem
>> >> > > > > > that
>> >> > > > > > would
>> >> > > > > > return fieldname=OFF if a displayed checkbox is unchecked.
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > This would enable web2py to retain existing values for a
>> >> > > > > > boolean
>> >> > > > > > field
>> >> > > > > > if a request.var was not present.
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > However, I recognise that some people may consider returning
>> >> > > > > > fieldname=OFF a contravention of protocol - does anyone feel
>> >> > > > > > like
>> >> > > > > > that?
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > FYI the solution is to add a hidden "off" checkbox
>> >> > > > > > (value='off')
>> >> > > > > > for
>> >> > > > > > each displayed checkbox (both with the same name) and when
>> >> > > > > > the
>> >> > > > > > normal
>> >> > > > > > checkbox is clicked setting the "off checkbox appropriately
>> >> > > > > > so
>> >> > > > > > that
>> >> > > > > > whatever the status of the normal checkbox either name=on or
>> >> > > > > > name=off
>> >> > > > > > will be returned.
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > Any thoughts gratefully received.
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > On Nov 21, 8:13 am, billf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> > > > > > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > > If the following explanation is correct it is a big
>> >> > > > > > > coincidence
>> >> > > > > > > because I have just been looking at this behaviour.
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > > When a form is submitted, if there is no parameter for a
>> >> > > > > > > field
>> >> > > > > > > then
>> >> > > > > > > one of 2 things happen (simplified):
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > > If it is NOT a checkable form control (checkable=check box
>> >> > > > > > > or
>> >> > > > > > > radio
>> >> > > > > > > button) then the original form value is used.  In the case
>> >> > > > > > > of
>> >> > > > > > > an
>> >> > > > > > > existing record, this will be the value in the existing
>> >> > > > > > > record. In the
>> >> > > > > > > case of a new record then any defailt will be used.
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > > If it IS a checkable form control then it is impossible to
>> >> > > > > > > distinguish
>> >> > > > > > > between a missing parameter and an unchecked control
>> >> > > > > > > because
>> >> > > > > > > CGI
>> >> > > > > > > doesn't send "mycheckbox=off" - it just doesn't send
>> >> > > > > > > anything.
>> >> > > > > > >  So to
>> >> > > > > > > be able to set a boolean field to false, web2py must say
>> >> > > > > > > missing==unchecked.
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > > In your case, you set checkboxes on page2 and everything is
>> >> > > > > > > fine.
>> >> > > > > > > When you amend page 1 and submit, no checkboxes are present
>> >> > > > > > > so
>> >> > > > > > > web2py
>> >> > > > > > > sets the associated fields to False. You go back to page 2
>> >> > > > > > > and, lo and
>> >> > > > > > > behold, all the checkboxes are unchecked.
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > > The only solution, given the current setup, is that any
>> >> > > > > > > fields
>> >> > > > > > > represented as checkable controls but not displayed in the
>> >> > > > > > > current
>> >> > > > > > > form must be set up in the form as "hidden" so that checked
>> >> > > > > > > fields are
>> >> > > > > > > returned even if they are not displayed.
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > > I think it should be possible to create the "hidden" fields
>> >> > > > > > > automatically in SQLFORM/FORM, although supporting "custom
>> >> > > > > > > forms" (where a developer may not include a field that the
>> >> > > > > > > standard
>> >> > > > > > > SQLFORM would include) could be a complication.
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > > On Nov 21, 6:20 am, "Wes James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> > > > > > > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > > > I have an app that on one page I have a set of fields
>> >> > > > > > > > (first
>> >> > > > > > > > 20 fields
>> >> > > > > > > > of say 50) I have manually placed.  All saves well and
>> >> > > > > > > > when
>> >> > > > > > > > I go to
>> >> > > > > > > > another page and come back all is well.
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > > > On a separate page, I edit the rest of these fields.
>> >> > > > > > > >  Part
>> >> > > > > > > > of these
>> >> > > > > > > > are check box fields and some others including textarea
>> >> > > > > > > > fields.
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > > > When I save the data on this page - all is well.
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > > > I then go back to the first page and make a change and
>> >> > > > > > > > save
>> >> > > > > > > > the data -
>> >> > > > > > > > fine, but if I go back to the page with the check boxes,
>> >> > > > > > > > they are all
>> >> > > > > > > > cleared out - I look in the DB in admin area and yes,
>> >> > > > > > > > they
>> >> > > > > > > > are all set
>> >> > > > > > > > to False.  But the textarea fields do not do this on this
>> >> > > > > > > > page - they
>> >> > > > > > > > keep their data just fine.
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > > > So I created a test page and made a controller like I
>> >> > > > > > > > already have:
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > > > form=t2.create(db.student)
>> >> > > > > > > > return dict(form=form)
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > > > and then in a test.html do {{=form}
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > > > I then save the page with a check box selected - fine -
>> >> > > > > > > > that
>> >> > > > > > > > works.
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > > > I then go back to my first page and make a change and
>> >> > > > > > > > save.
>> >> > > > > > > >  Go back
>> >> > > > > > > > to the test page and the check box is cleared.
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > > > Why is it doing this?
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > > > thx,
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > > > > -wj
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
> >
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