BTW - you may find T2 useful for prototyping, getting things up quickly. Besides the source, you can find the document on http://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/examples/static/t2.pdf
You may find T3 fast for prototyping too - have a look at the various pages and links at http://web2py.appspot.com/t3 But most of all - have LOTS of FUN - Enjoy :-) Yarko On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:16 AM, yarko <[email protected]> wrote: > > HI BG - > > Thanks for your note. Sorry for the delay on your posting - to help > manage spam robots (some of them quite offensive), we setup the group > to moderate new users. WIth the holidays here, the people who can > moderate are scattered accross the globe / time-zones, busy skiing and > with families (I hope! ;-). Your questions will be posted without any > more delays now. > > On Dec 19, 5:01 am, BG <[email protected]> wrote: > > I already posted this once, but it didn't seem to appear. I apologize > > if my post is just delayed and will now somehow appear twice. > > > > I intended to use Django for a project but found it too time consuming > > to learn. > > With Web2py I seem to be able to "get to the code" much faster, which > > is great. > > I found something similar. I had spent some time (in the past) with > Plone, then worked on DotNetNuke (was on that core team for a bit), > then Rails (hobo for Rails actually looked promising). Massimo, I > think, had similar experiences, and decided to roll his own - his > motivation (and ability) coming from a few places, including using it > to teach. I ran into Massimo at PyCon last year. Nice fellow. > > > > > I have a few questions. > > > > What is the best approach to do repetitive stuff. > > In particular I mean code you want to run no matter what controller > > have been invoked. > > I want to create my own account system and on every "page" I need to > > check: > > - Has a user has logged in? > > - What permissions does the logged in user have? > > > > Do I really have to create a module which I need to import in every > > controller > > which then creates an instance of my Account class and passes the > > session object to > > that instance? > > If you look at any of Massimo's code, you'll see that t2 gets imported > in the models - that's because the model gets executed first. You > can see the layout of this in gluon/main.py - take a look at > serve_controller() for the general sequence of running an app > (serve_controller is called from wsgi_base() - which is called for a > page request). > > > > > It would be great if there was a non-controller module which would be > > automatically loaded > > when a controller is used. I know global variables should be used > > sparingly, but this approach > > would make it easier to create globals for an application if you want > > them. > > You can load your modules from your models files; note that the files > in your application's models are executed in order, alphabetically - > you can put your import / initialization statement in the "0.py" > model (which is looked at first), your default "db.py" file, or any > other model file you choose. > > I hope this is helpful. > > > > > Normally I write PHP code, which often has globals, so maybe I just > > have the wrong ideas of > > how to do things. So, any advice on this would be welcome. > > > > === Plugins == > > I just discovered the T2/T3 plugins. > > Since T2 is not an application, it was a little confusing (at first) > > how to use it. > > I think it would be good if there could be a separate directory and > > importer for plugins. This > > way you could also show them in a different list than the > > applications. > > This is a good idea. This summer (I think) we had some discussions > on the difference between a module and a plugin (I argued that there > is a fundamental and important difference in concept;). > > In any case, the idea of modules, plugins, and how web2py will > ultimately handle that is still in the forming stages. > > As it currently is, modules (which are interchangeably called plugins > - unfortunately) are by convention imported from your application's > modules directory. This may likely change in the future, but that's > the way it is now. I encourage you to share your ideas on this. > > > > > It would also be great if a plugin could include some documentation > > that can be seen through > > its design page. > > That's a really good idea. > > > > > Anyways, thanks for a great framework. > > I hope you find this a helpful, friendly user group (as I have). > Thanks for writing, and welcome! > > Kind regards, > Yarko > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
