So the big question is...what would a plugin system look like? What would you want it to control?
Currently the T2 functionality is a set of Python methods that you can expose and add to your app. I agree that it looks cludgy, but how can it be made better? I want to keep things narrow in this discussion. So let's have an example: Authentication. Let's say I have an app and I want to add authentication to it (aside from Basic HTTP auth). How would a plugin add this functionality to my app? -tim billf wrote: > I've been away a while so I am trying to catch up with all the new > stuff. I've downloaded the version in trunk and I'm trying to get my > head around it all. My first (admittedly very early) impressions are: > > 1) The functionality is nice but, personally, I don't see utils.py > stuff as core web2py. > > 2) I would prefer to see a simple, well-defined, rock-solid core and > everything else as a plugin. I accept that where you draw the line is > totally subjective. For example , I have no problem with a mandatory > 'id' and would like to see an optional 'last_modification_timestamp' > included in the core. Others want neither. I have a problem with > Mail, Auth and Crud in the core. I'm sure others see no problem. > > 3) Someone devise a good plugin system pleeeeeease. Or a requirements > spec for one? I know; "do it yourself" :-) > > 4) There is a bug in utils.py: lines 821, 833 and 849 should all refer > to self.settings. not self.setting. > > [BTW is it possible to override the redirect at the end of create(), > update() and delete()? I couldn't.] > > 5) The url format: http://..../[app]/default/database/create/[app]_event > ...has got to be the least elegant way of saying "I want a form to add > a record to table [app]_event" you could think of. Shouldn't the goal > be: http://..../[app]/default/[app]_event ? > > 6) Crud just seems a way to minimise the need to write function stubs > (by enforcing action/table/id in the url) and enforcing a call to Auth > if present. It's just really a pattern for a do-everything function. > > 7) I think web2py is struggling to define itself. Is it: > > - a powerful general-purpose framework (that could do with a little > attention to its foundations)? > > - a cms with a long way to go? > > - some sort of app-builder app for plugins/modules with no plugin/ > module api/infrastructure? > > I don't think it will succeed if it tries to be more than one of the > above. But maybe I'm just not aspirational enough. > > > Obviously, the above is mostly personal hot air but then that's what a > forum's for :-) > > Bill > > On Jan 21, 9:46 am, mdipierro <[email protected]> wrote: > >> yes but only so that you can test them and provide feedback. I hope to >> finalize the APIs and documentations within the week. >> >> also I would like to change the name of the file from utils.py to >> something more catchy. Any suggestion? >> >> Massimo >> >> On Jan 21, 1:33 am, David Marko <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> These things look very nice. >>> Does it mean that described changes are available in svn trunk >>> version? >>> >>> David >>> >>> On 21 Led, 00:36, mdipierro <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I have a preliminary version of inclusion if T2 functionality into >>>> web2py core. I am not yet promising backward compatibility here. The >>>> module name many change. For now it is in trunk as gluon/utils.py >>>> >>>> Here is how you use it (assuming [app] is you application name). >>>> >>>> 1) put this in your model >>>> >>>> from gluon.utils import * >>>> auth=Auth(globals(),db) >>>> auth.define_tables() >>>> crud=Crud(globals(),db) >>>> >>>> 2) put this in your "default" controller >>>> >>>> def user(): return dict(form=auth()) >>>> def database(): return dict(form=crud()) >>>> def download(): return response.download() >>>> >>>> def index(): >>>> response.flash=T('Welcome to web2py') >>>> return dict(message=T('Hello World')) >>>> >>>> Now >>>> visit:http://..../[app]/default/user/registerhttp://..../[app]/default/user/loginhttp://..../[app]/default/user/profilehttp://..../[app]/default/user/change_passwordhttp://..../[app]/default/user/groupshttp://..../[app]/default/user/logouthttp://..../[app]/default/user/retrieve_password >>>> >>>> http://..../[app]/default/database/tableshttp://..../[app]/default/database/select/[app]_eventhttp://..../[app]/default/database/create/[app]_eventhttp://..../[app]/default/database/read/[app]_event/1http://..../[app]/default/database/update/[app]_event/1http://..../[app]/default/database/delete/[app]_event/1 >>>> >>>> now add to the model >>>> >>>> mail=Mail() >>>> mail.settings.server='smtp.whetever.com' >>>> mail.settings.sender='[email protected]' >>>> mail.settings.longin='username:password' >>>> auth.settings.mail=mail >>>> >>>> so that registration requires email verification >>>> >>>> then add >>>> >>>> auth.settings.captcha=RECAPTCHA >>>> (request,public_key='RECAPTCHA_PUBLIC_KEY',private_key='RECAPTCHA_PRIVATE_K >>>> EY') >>>> >>>> so that registration will use recaptcha >>>> >>>> then add >>>> >>>> crud.auth=auth >>>> >>>> so that crud will enforce role based access control.... >>>> >>>> now you lost the permission to accesshttp://.../database/.... >>>> >>>> now give yourself back permission *only* to select record in table >>>> [app]_user >>>> >>>> group_id=auth.add_group(role='Manager') >>>> auth.add_membership(group_id,auth.user.id) >>>> auth.add_permission(group_id,'select','[app]_user') >>>> >>>> or to delete users >>>> >>>> auth.add_permission(group_id,'delete','[app]_user') >>>> >>>> get the idea?.... I think I have been following (or tried to) the >>>> advice of some of the members here like Yarko, Ceej, Bill, Fran, and >>>> others. >>>> >>>> There is a lot more stuff in there (like decorators that enforce >>>> permissions) that needs polishing and documenting. >>>> >>>> Volunteers to help? >>>> >>>> Massimo >>>> > > > -- Timothy Farrell <[email protected]> Computer Guy Statewide General Insurance Agency (www.swgen.com) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
