everything is debatable: only side thing I can argue is that helpers
are objects related to markup and I do not like them mingled with
logic. But that's philosophy I agree.

The main real point is that if you want to share your work with html
designers, you can not use helpers at all. Your designer gives you
markup and style: the more you have this separated from your logic the
better integraton ease.

carlo

On 18 Feb, 01:58, AchipA <[email protected]> wrote:
> One of the returning moments on this list is that when I say helpers
> in controllers, people hear 'html in code'. The two have (almost)
> nothing in common, even though it's possible to overuse/abuse helpers
> (just as you can put html in strings in controllers - obviously bad).
> Then again, maybe it's just me having an awkward POV on helpers :)
>
> My main question is - why do people consider transferring only stock
> variable/list/dictionary python objects to the views 'cleaner' than
> transferring any other python object to it (helper objects, or even
> your own) ? Helpers create *objects* which are just data wrappers.
> They are *NOT* strings and have nothing in common with HTML until the
> point they get rendered.
>
> On Feb 18, 12:03 am, carlo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On 17 Feb, 23:39, AchipA <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > web2py gives quite some latitude with regard to doing things... I
> > > understand there are major no-nos, but is there a best way ? We had
>
> > Sorry but I would be more narrow minded about this: from my point
> > there *should* be never a good reason to put html in controllers: it
> > makes code difficult to debug, to read and to share with designers.
> > Isn't this one of the reasons for php and java servlets failure in the
> > enterprise?
>
> > carlo
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