discussion has shifted on helpers that I love but I do not suggest them working in team with designers. Helpers can fail on readability: try 4-5 annidated helpers each with 3-4 properties. My topic was rather different.
- a clean separation between markup and logic is advisable or you fall in java servlets or php - the "everything in controllers" style easily leads to messy code (see example above) - one of the best solution at the moment is Tim Farrell's (see link above) carlo On 18 Feb, 20:45, AchipA <[email protected]> wrote: > On Feb 18, 7:43 pm, carlo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Working in team they are almost useless: the html code is usually the > > source for your logic not a "product" to pass designers. You get html > > static pages with style and putting in some logic is your business. > > I guess I'm just terrible at expressing myself. There is no > uncrossable difference between helpers and plain lists/dicts, and thus > there doesn't need to be any appreciable difference in templates using > one over the other, either. On the other hand, while the designers are > sleeping, the coder CAN use the helper's native output to speed up > prototyping and ensure standards compliance. > > Sometimes I even use two separate views for the same controller > function - one from the 'designer' and one for development. The > helpers in this sense make it actually easier to work in teams. As the > controller output is the same, I can mess with my functionality/ > debugging oriented views, while not breaking the 'simple', element > oriented view supplied by the designer. > > To reiterate - the way I see it helpers are objects just like lists or > dicts and can thus be used in the same way with regard to controllers > or views. If you do not get carried away, you only gain additional > functionality compared to the case you skipped using helpers > altogether and thus it cannot 'worsen' MVC compatibility or teamwork > than what the basic MVC model already requires/allows for. To all who > I have not convinced and/or have wasted their time to read my lengthy > posts about this arguably philosophical point - sorry, I'm over and > out :) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
