So - Trac is not great, but as a wiki, will _allow_ using reST. We can get that up in a number of ways (but if the choice is between trac and moin-moin, I think we go for a web2py-wiki project).
As for twiki: It's perl; we won't port perl! BUT the functional feature set(s) may be useful to harvest (it has useful features). Massimo - Would you be willing to start a web2wiki project on launchpad? We can at least write blueprints, and people can work on pieces (instead of just complaining about what it doesn't do). That I think would be a good. What do you think? Regards, Yarko On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Mark Eichin <[email protected]> wrote: > Twiki might be an ok workflow model, but the security problems got it > pulled from debian, so *don't* use the code as a reference :-) > > I have a successful engineering intranet moinmoin, but primarily because it > is in python so it was dead easy to add plugins to link to our other systems > (vc, bugs, sales tracking.) It's had a lot of development in recent years. > (That said, I might go with trac if I were starting again.) > > (I want a full scale web2py wiki some day - but I think it would be good to > get *something* up by pycon to capture any enthusiasm stirred up by the > fresh publicity...) > > On Mar 8, 2009 6:45 AM, "Jonathan B" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Yarko and all, > > > Thanks for the feedback. > > If you agree, I think that we can get started now. The wiki located at > https://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/wiki is good enough as a starting point for > documenting web2py. We can get going on creating and publishing a > source code repository for the community manual. I'm going to start > reading up on Sphinx. > > Hopefully over the next few months we can get the Wiki transferred to > a more suitable location, preferably one either without HTTPS or with > a valid certificate. > > > On Mar 8, 12:03 pm, Yarko Tymciurak <[email protected]> wrote: > > > - we don't have Reddish (!) --- you (apparently) can't get your app > > > source back from appspot, and Massimo did not put this under revision > > repository anywhere.... > Wow, that really sucks. Unfortunately, it's true that on Google App > Engine you can't recover your source directly. And it doesn't look > like Google is planning on fixing this issue any time soon, either. On > the bright side, old versions are retained on GAE, so you should be > able to safely replace Reddish with other code (although make sure to > change the version number when you upload!!!!). Then if Google *does* > fix this issue in the future you can still (in theory) recover the > Reddish source. > > > > - which leads to the second problem: the appliances are not dated, > not > > > versioned, many of them (?) archaic, e.g. not able to run under > current > versions. > I fully agree with you. And all of the appliances should be fully > documented as well. > > > > - This same problem is now w/ the wiki - that is, it's not archived in > a > > > versioning system anywhere... if it's going to be used, it should be > visible > / accessible.... > Yes, I was hoping we could get the source code for the Wiki. > > > This is up to Massimo & DePaul. We can host elsewhere too. > I think > Massimo has his hands ful... > I would love to help with this, but I can't do anything "official" > since I don't have the keys to anything web2py. I don't have the Wiki > source code, and I can't affect what's on web2py.appspot.com or on > web2py.com. So right now my hands are tied. > > > 8 years is a long time; but Ok - then forget moin-moin for the moment... > > I took another look at MoinMoin today, and the UI seems greatly > improved. However, most of the community seems to have its heart set > on a web2py-based Wiki... The current version of the Wiki doesn't > have a lot of features, but it seems to have enough for us all to get > started. > > > Well - designing redditt is not the same as cloning it. For wiki's, we > > (in a major worldwid... > I agree that Twiki is an awesome example to emulate. We used TWiki > internally where I used to work. > > --Jonathan > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
