Jonathan -
RE:  Sphinx:
Not much to read up on (unless you have free time ;-).

Get the latest snapshot,  get jinja2 - and be off and running (make a test
document, make sure it works).

http://bitbucket.org/birkenfeld/sphinx/overview/

(clone or download a zip)

If you get that far, then go get Bruce Eckel's  "Python 3 Patterns & Idioms"
 book project (in Sphinx) from bitbucket -

http://bitbucket.org/BruceEckel/python-3-patterns-idioms/

It has pre-built html and pdf - with instructions on how to setup to
contribute to that book....

That can be a starting point.

I have the FAQ from massimo;   we can start a Sphinx-book repository also.
 All that is needed then is to host that.


Suggest you use makefile approach.


Regards,
Yarko

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Jonathan B <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Hi Yarko and all,
>
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> If you agree, I think that we can get started now. The wiki located at
> https://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/wiki is good enough as a starting point for
> documenting web2py.  We can get going on creating and publishing a
> source code repository for the community manual.  I'm going to start
> reading up on Sphinx.
>
> Hopefully over the next few months we can get the Wiki transferred to
> a more suitable location, preferably one either without HTTPS or with
> a valid certificate.
>
>
> On Mar 8, 12:03 pm, Yarko Tymciurak <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >    - we don't have Reddish (!)  --- you (apparently) can't get your app
> >    source back from appspot, and Massimo did not put this under revision
> >    repository anywhere.   When his disk drive died, the current Reddish
> died
> >    with it.  The beginnings of it are all that's on the appliances link;
>
> Wow, that really sucks.  Unfortunately, it's true that on Google App
> Engine you can't recover your source directly. And it doesn't look
> like Google is planning on fixing this issue any time soon, either. On
> the bright side, old versions are retained on GAE, so you should be
> able to safely replace Reddish with other code (although make sure to
> change the version number when you upload!!!!). Then if Google *does*
> fix this issue in the future you can still (in theory) recover the
> Reddish source.
>
>
> >    - which leads to the second problem:   the appliances are not dated,
> not
> >    versioned, many of them (?) archaic, e.g. not able to run under
> current
> >    versions.
>
> I fully agree with you.  And all of the appliances should be fully
> documented as well.
>
>
> >    - This same problem is now w/ the wiki - that is, it's not archived in
> a
> >    versioning system anywhere... if it's going to be used, it should be
> visible
> >    / accessible.   (I suspect there might be some class project /
> assignment
> >    type of  issues at play here...)
>
> Yes, I was hoping we could get the source code for the Wiki.
>
>
> > This is up to Massimo & DePaul.   We can host elsewhere too.
> > I think Massimo has his hands full, and would probably be happier to see
> us
> > offload this...
>
> I would love to help with this, but I can't do anything "official"
> since I don't have the keys to anything web2py. I don't have the Wiki
> source code, and I can't affect what's on web2py.appspot.com or on
> web2py.com.  So right now my hands are tied.
>
>
> > 8 years is a long time;  but Ok - then forget moin-moin for the moment...
>
> I took another look at MoinMoin today, and the UI seems greatly
> improved.  However, most of the community seems to have its heart set
> on a web2py-based Wiki...  The current version of the Wiki doesn't
> have a lot of features, but it seems to have enough for us all to get
> started.
>
>
> > Well - designing redditt is not the same as cloning it.   For wiki's,  we
> > (in a major worldwide corp) use a commercial wiki (languishes) and an
> open
> > source one (really gets a lot of traction).   Let's clone Twiki (from
> design
> > structure), and make the rendering reST (or optionally markdown).
>
> I agree that Twiki is an awesome example to emulate.  We used TWiki
> internally where I used to work.
>
>
> --Jonathan
> >
>

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