Yes. Ractive.js. I like it a lot. I had developed an application in Angular.js and then moved it to underscore.js+Ravtice.js and It became faster, leaner and more readable code. Of course it could have been me misusing angular. here is a problem for example...
Angular forces to organize code in controllers. The models live inside the scope of the controllers. Yet I want to build my application as a collection of jQuery plugins and I find myself having to create strange loops to pass information between the two. Also Angular does not always works as advertised. Ractive always worked as intended. I can make a mode be global and access is from all the plugins without having to pass parameters everywhere. Also I can use the ractive.js promises everywhere without having to pass the $scope. Massimo On Wednesday, 14 May 2014 08:44:45 UTC-5, Ramos wrote: > > or this ? > > http://www.ractivejs.org/ > > > 2014-05-14 12:28 GMT+01:00 Anthony <[email protected]>: > >> Is this the reactive.js you are using: >> https://github.com/component/reactive? >> >> >> On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 1:20:25 AM UTC-4, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: >>> >>> I am looking at jQuery.js + underscore.js + reactive.js and I find >>> everything I ever looked for. Seems much more flexible than Angular.js and >>> I cannot see what I would be missing. What would I be missing? >>> I just wish they shared the same namespace instead of $, _, Reactive. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, 13 May 2014 23:40:58 UTC-5, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: >>>> >>>> I have been using angular.js a lot but I find the controller pattern to >>>> be too constraining. for example I cannot use promises outside the scope >>>> of >>>> a controller. I also find that while easy for simple example is get easily >>>> out of hands and I find myself having to revert to jQuery for lots of >>>> stuff. Consider for example the case of opening/closing a panel when a >>>> button is clicked. One can do this with angular but if you wish to add any >>>> animation to the panel, you have to use jQuery. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, 12 May 2014 14:28:48 UTC-5, Michele Comitini wrote: >>>>> >>>>> How is angular.js compared to ractive.js inside web2py's ecosystem? >>>>> What is your opinion? >>>>> >>>>> 2014-05-12 18:25 GMT+02:00 António Ramos <[email protected]>: >>>>> > >>>>> > I´m just in favor of angular to improve and modernize user >>>>> experience. >>>>> > In this matter router-ui seems very interesting also. >>>>> > Also ng animate for animations. >>>>> > >>>>> > I dont understand how you relate directly data out of sync with >>>>> angular and >>>>> > not with web2py. >>>>> > If new data on server, just publish it to the clients so all update >>>>> it.Its a >>>>> > web2py problem not angular. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Regards >>>>> > António >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > 2014-05-12 16:59 GMT+01:00 weheh <[email protected]>: >>>>> > >>>>> >> Filtering and sorting can definitely save on http calls. Is there >>>>> anything >>>>> >> else you can think of where it's applicable without creating a >>>>> synch issue >>>>> >> in highly collaborative apps? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Monday, May 12, 2014 11:37:07 PM UTC+8, Ramos wrote: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> I was not talking about hiding on click. I was thinking about >>>>> filtering >>>>> >>> with a live search box above the table. >>>>> >>> Angular Filters and directives are awesome and once you know them >>>>> you >>>>> >>> cant stop thinking about them. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> I´m here to learn so feel free to pun me... >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> :P >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> 2014-05-12 16:25 GMT+01:00 weheh <[email protected]>: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>> @Ramos: of course, I understand that Amber's script was >>>>> necessarily >>>>> >>>> limited, but it did highlight an important gotcha with this kind >>>>> of >>>>> >>>> scripting when used with web2py. And if all I wanted to do was >>>>> hide a table >>>>> >>>> entry on click, I wouldn't want to pay the penalty of loading >>>>> AngularJS to >>>>> >>>> do that. $(".target").hide() works fine. So I'm still looking for >>>>> the angle >>>>> >>>> where AngularJS fits (no pun intended, but happy to make the pun >>>>> anyway). >>>>> >>>> ;-) >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> On Monday, May 12, 2014 6:15:37 PM UTC+8, Ramos wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Amber was only focused in showing how easy it is to create a >>>>> better >>>>> >>>>> experience for the user using Angular than simple javascript. >>>>> >>>>> Also a lot less code for us, developers. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It was just a simple demo. Of course that if the app was real >>>>> and to be >>>>> >>>>> used by many, she could/should worry about keeping data in sync. >>>>> >>>>> And angular could fetch ajax data just like web2py components.I >>>>> see no >>>>> >>>>> diference here. Its only a matter of taste. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I could as well say that using only web2py,if i have 1000 users >>>>> and >>>>> >>>>> everytime i need to hide a row in a table i need an http call, >>>>> my server >>>>> >>>>> will die soon with all requests.. and for this angular is a >>>>> perfect fit. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2014-05-12 3:28 GMT+01:00 weheh <[email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> +1 regarding the AngulaJS talk with web2py by Amber Doctor. >>>>> Kudos to >>>>> >>>>>> Amber for a talk well given! >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I've been studying AngularJS a little and haven't written any >>>>> code, >>>>> >>>>>> yet, but my web Spidey sense is giving off alarms. I think >>>>> Amber's talk >>>>> >>>>>> underscores a potential danger of client-side MVC. First, >>>>> correct me if I'm >>>>> >>>>>> wrong, but there's nothing in AngularJS that you can't already >>>>> do in web2y >>>>> >>>>>> using components. The difference is that Angular does it client >>>>> side without >>>>> >>>>>> needing to make an http call, so it potentially runs faster. >>>>> And AngularJS >>>>> >>>>>> seems to have a more compact way of doing things we do in >>>>> jQuery with >>>>> >>>>>> _onclick="blah blah blah" and other such >>>>> ajax("url",["target"],":eval"); or >>>>> >>>>>> web2py_component(...) stuff. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> The danger highlighted by Amber's example is that Angular makes >>>>> it >>>>> >>>>>> much easier to create a client-side model that gets out of >>>>> synch with its >>>>> >>>>>> server-side web2py model. And keeping them in synch violates >>>>> DRY principles, >>>>> >>>>>> requiring the http calls that you would have had to do anyway >>>>> if you did a >>>>> >>>>>> web2py-component-only approach. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> For instance, if Amber's talk had been about a collaborative >>>>> recipe >>>>> >>>>>> app and someone was updating the recipe database serverside >>>>> while somebody >>>>> >>>>>> else was perusing the db clientside, then it would be easy for >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>>> clientside user to get an out of date recipe and stay ignorant >>>>> of that fact >>>>> >>>>>> for a very long time. That's because the local copy of the data >>>>> is fetched >>>>> >>>>>> only once when the recipe is first clicked, assuming I >>>>> understood her app >>>>> >>>>>> correctly. Further exiting and entering the recipe would not do >>>>> an http >>>>> >>>>>> call, whereas the web2py component approach would naturally >>>>> force an http >>>>> >>>>>> call, thereby keeping the user in synch. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> AngularJS seems to offer nifty, high-performance clientside >>>>> business >>>>> >>>>>> logic ability. But unless structured carefully, it's not clear >>>>> that it'll >>>>> >>>>>> save http calls without endangering synch between client and >>>>> server. And it >>>>> >>>>>> could introduce even more complexity in terms of debugging and >>>>> verbosity in >>>>> >>>>>> terms of supporting two MVCs for the same app. The thought of >>>>> that makes me >>>>> >>>>>> wince. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Anybody else have an opinion about this? >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>>> Resources: >>>>> >>>>>> - http://web2py.com >>>>> >>>>>> - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) >>>>> >>>>>> - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) >>>>> >>>>>> - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) >>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>> >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>> Google >>>>> >>>>>> Groups "web2py-users" group. >>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>> it, send >>>>> >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>>> >>>> Resources: >>>>> >>>> - http://web2py.com >>>>> >>>> - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) >>>>> >>>> - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) >>>>> >>>> - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) >>>>> >>>> --- >>>>> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>> Google >>>>> >>>> Groups "web2py-users" group. >>>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>> send >>>>> >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> Resources: >>>>> >> - http://web2py.com >>>>> >> - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) >>>>> >> - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) >>>>> >> - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) >>>>> >> --- >>>>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> >> "web2py-users" group. >>>>> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>> send an >>>>> >> email to [email protected]. >>>>> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > Resources: >>>>> > - http://web2py.com >>>>> > - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) >>>>> > - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) >>>>> > - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) >>>>> > --- >>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> > "web2py-users" group. >>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>> send an >>>>> > email to [email protected]. >>>>> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >> Resources: >> - http://web2py.com >> - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) >> - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) >> - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "web2py-users" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. 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