Simple point about calendar:  not sure you can (or would want to) use google
calendar as part of a estore - that is, to sell time (coaching, seminars,
haircuts, whatever...)

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 5:18 PM, weheh <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I'm late to this party because I've been on the road and
> incommunicado, but here are my 2 cents:
>
> - CMS: this is a critical app and one of the reasons I ended up
> finding web2py to begin with, even though web2py is neither a CMS nor
> is there a production-worthy CMS (no slur against KPAX) associated
> with web2py. CMS is an important functionality for just about any
> website, so this is definitely a high-priority app to have open-
> sourced for web2py.
>
> - estore: A production-worthy estore would be quite nice. Especially
> if it would be easy to tie into one's own web2py db of products.
> Thumbs up to this idea, too.
>
> - Wiki: I agree with Joe on this one. Why the heck hasn't the web2py
> wiki gotten more attention? Why doesn't it a kick-ass web2py app? Why
> aren't people building out the info in it? What does that say about
> this community?
>
> - Calendar: I just finished a calendar-based scheduling app for a
> client. It was fun and had its challenges. I'm debating adapting it to
> one of my own websites. But I'm also looking deeper into Google
> Calendar. Frankly, it looks like it would make more sense for an
> example of web2py tapping into Google calendar. The philosophical
> issue is that most people won't have multiple calendars going at once.
> Google has achieved black hole mass and has already won the email and
> calendar battle (even relative to Microsoft). How could web2py even
> make a dent, here? Why would anyone put their calendar on someone
> else's website when they already have it in Google Cal, MS Outlook,
> their Palm Pilot, or their Blackberry? I vote NAY on developing a
> calendar app.
>
> And now the best saved for last:
>
> - Medical records keeping: I've seen some postings about this on
> web2py. This, to me, is the *killer app*. Since I first learned of
> web2py I've been threatening my friends that I was going to do
> something about medical record keeping. Web2py seems like the obvious
> choice for implementation. Let me explain ...
>
> For most people, privacy, cost, and ubiquity are the key issues
> surrounding medical records keeping.
> - Privacy: web2py offers privacy because it can run on a USB memory
> stick. In other words, you can keep your records on a memory stick and
> completely off the internet or your PC. What could be more secure?
> Google offers free medical records keeping. I tried it. Knock on wood,
> I'm healthy, so there's not much data I need to enter into Google.
> Nevertheless, there's no way in hell I'm going to give Google my
> medical records. (I know, this sounds inconsistent when correlated
> against my comments about the calendar app above. Still, medical
> records are more sensitive than when I have to carpool my kid to
> school, right? And Google already knows too much about me, so there!)
> - Cost: how about free? Most medical records systems cost $100K+. Why?
> Beats me. Who pays for it? We all do. Sure, there is the issue of
> integration with equipment and legacy records. But those issues aren't
> that difficult to overcome. Really, the issue of medical records
> keeping is more political than technological, IMHO. (Call me naiive,
> but there are 3 docs in my family and I've talked to them, most of my
> best friends are docs and I've taoked to them, I've talked about this
> issue with all my own personal docs, I've talked to people in
> government who are responsible for medical records keeping, and to the
> IT people in docs offices and at hospitals who are responsible for
> medical records keeping. My conclusion is that it's a political issue
> -- government, office politics, big insurance politics, and medical
> community politics.) The way to kill this issue is to make it free.
> Free as in $0.
> - Ubiquity: Free is good. Free is different from cheap. Free spreads
> fast. Free spreads everywhere. Something like >70% of doctors offices
> in the US don't have electronic medical records (EMR) because it's too
> expensive. The Obama admin is budgeting greater than $10B (that's
> billions with a B) to make electronic records ubiquitous. For us
> Americans out there using web2py, this hits us in the wallet. Frankly,
> I'm appalled that anyone thinks it will cost $10B+ to do this. As
> relieved as I am that Obama is president (vs. the previous jackass), I
> think it's an absurd use of my taxpayer's dollars to subsidise the
> medical and insurance industries with costly, yet easy to implement
> software. So I see it as almost a patriotic duty to come up with a
> strategy that subverts the bureaucracy's tendency to spend my hard-
> earned money.
>
> Towards that end, web2py is an unbelievable opportunity for medical
> record keeping because it gives us, the consumers of medical services,
> the opportunity to own and control our own medical records. Web2py is
> unique among potential implementations in its ability to run off of a
> USB memory stick. As such, the issue of privacy is moot. The patient
> can keep his/her own medical record off-line and under lock and key if
> they so choose.
>
> Distribution of a web2py medical record app would be free. If the
> customer was too poor to have a computer, there could be sites that
> hosted the medical records and web2py medical app. But frankly, even
> the sickest patient could fit all their medical records on a 100MB USB
> memory stick, which is basically free.
>
> Patients could download the app (with web2py and SQLite included) onto
> a local machine, get the doc to copy their record into it, and then
> bring the USB stick to the doctor's office where they could enable
> their doctor to see select portions of their record. Same goes for
> insurance companies and pharmacies. If online, then access could also
> be controlled using the auth and CRUD functionality.
>
> The potential for positive publicity for web2py for a medical records
> app would be, frankly, priceless. And the savings to the government
> and medical community would be in the $Billions. As for the insurance
> and pharma companies, screw them (after all, they screw us all the
> time). They would benefit from cost savings, too, but who cares?
>
> So there's my 2 cents. I'll get off my soap box now. Comments and
> rants are welcome.
> >
>

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