funny - sometimes no matter how much people want it,  "just do it" doesn't
seem to work.... sometimes you have to figure out what is missing or what is
wrong...

sometimes "just doing it" is part of the road to figuring that out;
sometimes it doesn't help at all - we are, it seems to me, experiencing the
frustration of the latter...

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:23 PM, mdipierro <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> +1
>
> On Jul 17, 10:32 am, "Hans Donner" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > i m seeing many posts about the doc needing improvement, and some
> discusions about it should be done in the wiki that is not there yet.
> > However, i see little that people offer documentation or patches that
> work on the documentation.
> >
> > please, can we see more of the latter and less of the first? also, do no
> point only to massimo that he should provide it.
> > document what is not clear to  you, and after help from this list,
> complete it and submit it so it can be added to the documentation or
> examples.
> >
> > hans
> >
> > ------- Original Message -------
> > From: viniciusban <[email protected]>
> > To: web2py Web Framework <[email protected]>
> > Sent: 17/07/2009, 15:57:14
> > Subject: [web2py:26736] Re: The 80/20 rule
> >
> > On Jul 16, 11:49 pm, mdipierro <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > We can add more and more features to web2py with the effect that:
> > > - web2py grows in complexity to the point that it becomes harder to
> > > maintain
> > > - web2py gets slower
> >
> > I think these 2 are not good choices because a good framework must be
> > fast and simple. You achieved that already.
> >
> > I'd choose to improve free documentation. I really find myself
> > confused with web2py's documentation.
> > I think the free available resources must be improved and we won't see
> > many developers until it gets stronger.
> >
> > > Finally, this community has to do a better job at outreach. You should
> > > talk to your friends and blog about web2py. You must talk about the
> > > applications you build with it. We do not lack developers. We lack
> > > salesmen.
> >
> > I just started it the day before yesterday, in Brazilian Portuguese:
> http://aprenda-web2py.blogspot.com
> > In 2 days it has about 300 views with virtually no sharing.
> >
> > We have a strong Django community, but we don't have statistics about
> > how many are really *working* with it.
> >
> > I talked to Alvaro Justen about it and we'll write some posts from the
> > web2py user's point of view.
> >
> > It won't be a manual, absolutelly! It'll be a blog with practical
> > web2py development emphasis. Maybe a lot of howtos and many principles
> > explained.
> >
> > I started this blog with 2 posts "selling" some nice features about
> > web2py.
> > The first one, I got from web2py's homepage.
> >
> > The other one talks about the "backwards compatibility" thread I
> > started this week, but translated.
> > As I said before, I think this is some of the most important web2py's
> > characteristics.
> >
> > I can see many advantages in web2py and I will write about them in a
> > series of posts, emphasizing the time-to-market web2py allows us to
> > have.
> >
> > --
> > Vinicius Assef.
> >
>

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