The purpose of the logo polling thread was to determine whether there
was sufficient interest in the Max the snake logo such that we should
pursue further development. The polling was to offer the community an
opportunity to voice their opinion. This was done at Massimo's
request, expressed in a private email between Massimo and Richard (me)
prior to the polling. Perhaps different terminology should have been
used, but I think expectations were properly set, especially when
Massimo weighed in early on and said that he wasn't going to use the
new logo, regardless. Also, in the post, I acknowledged that it wasn't
a democratic process. And I'm on record in earlier threads stating
that Massimo should have the last say in any logo selection, process.
So the only people who might have been confused were those who didn't
read the posts, in which case, confusion would prevail regardless of
what anyone does or says. But from the responses posted publicly and
the ones I received privately, the only confusion seemed to be from
the moderator who shut down the thread before I had time to tally the
results.

But let's not make a mountain out of a mole hill. There are more
important issues to deal with here and no harm was done, I hope, and
certainly not to me. My intent was to give Diane's effort the
visibility and attention it deserved and to offer this group an
alternative icon to promote web2py. Diane is a terrific animator and
by looking carefully at the various iterations on the logo it's clear
that she's able to imbue the few lines that comprise Max the snake
with tons of personality. She has given permission to use the sketches
as anyone sees fit. Please give her the appropriate attribution if
anyone does decide to use her work. As for my work on this issue: it
is done. The tribe has spoken. Max will go into retirement and eat
tunafish until he dies of mercury poisoning, hopefully at a ripe old
age.

Richard

p.s. in regards to MDP's post above, I think it would be useful to
have a place where voting can be done more formally. Where the
balloting process is web2py driven. And where the issue being voted on
can be clearly stated. This will make the process more efficient.
Then, let anyone post a vote (web2py related). It will be a useful
surveying mechanism, and there are no wrong issues or answers. All of
it is information. And copious amounts of info will help the web2py
development team going forward. Try to exercise as little censorship
as possible. Threads should be closed down only under extreme
circumstances, like people flaming irresponsibly (e.g. silly name
calling), or coopting the site for purposes other than responsible
web2py discussion.

On Sep 3, 9:37 am, mdipierro <[email protected]> wrote:
> Recently Richard proposed a new logo, called for an online vote and
> Yarko closed the thread:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/browse_thread/thread/e5c0023098...
>
> I would like to clarify a few things:
> 1) Richard had emailed me the his logo before opening the thread. I
> invited him to post is logo on the group in case people liked it.
> 2) It was Richard idea to call a vote on it. That is OK this time
> since we have no rule against it
> 3) Yarko closed the thread. That was his idea but he did so exactly
> when Richard said the poll was going to close. (Richard said in 3hrs
> at 9:25 and Yarko closed at 12:17). Therefore the result of the poll
> are not significantly affected: users like the new logo but prefer to
> stay with the current one.
> 4) I approved this consultation in the thread. I did not say I would
> comply with the outcome but, of course, I would have taken (and I am
> taking) users opinion in strong consideration in this matter.
>
> I do not think in this case there is any issue. The poll closed when
> it was supposed to be closed. The outcome was that we stay with
> current logo, nevertheless some of you like the new snake and perhaps
> we can find a use for it.
>
> But we need to write down some rules for the future:
> a) When can one call an online vote?
> b) When one can close a thread?
> c) what else?
>
> Massimo
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