On Feb 7, 2010, at 6:32 PM, mdipierro wrote:

> We could add an option like "strict=False" that if true does what you
> ask.

What's the use case? I'm having trouble seeing what such an option would do for 
you.

Sure, IS_UPPER() should probably have been named TO_UPPER(). But at this 
point....

> 
> On Feb 7, 8:22 pm, Iceberg <iceb...@21cn.com> wrote:
>> But in this case (provided that we really change IS_UPPER() as
>> Pihentagy suggested), you can rely on the human, because they can not
>> input lower case. Your app still need not to edit a single line. :)
>> 
>> Well, sounds like I support changing IS_UPPER() 's behavior. But
>> actually I am neutral to this proposal.
>> 
>> On Feb7, 3:24pm, Thadeus Burgess <thade...@thadeusb.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> It will break backwards compatibility.
>> 
>>> I have apps that rely on the functionality of IS_UPPER applying
>>> .upper() to the incoming variables. Anything that requires me to edit
>>> a single line of code on my app to just upgrade web2py breaks
>>> backwards compatibility, unless it was a bug to begin with.
>> 
>>> -Thadeus
>> 
>>> On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Iceberg <iceb...@21cn.com> wrote:
>>>> @Pihentagy:
>> 
>>>> Besides, the current IS_UPPER() (and IS_LOWER()) is not that bad,
>>>> IMHO. What is the real difference between alarm end user to change his
>>>> input into upper case, or just silently change his input into upper
>>>> case?
>> 
>>>> To say the least, we can really change IS_UPPER() to just warning, and
>>>> perhaps another UPPERCASE() to uppercase. As long as the old apps do
>>>> not really break, but just sightly change its behavior in acceptable
>>>> range, I consider web2py is still backward compatible.
>> 
>>>> About web3py, Renato says all. :)
>> 
>>>> On Feb6, 8:24pm, Renato-ES-Brazil <renatoa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Web3py is an alternative, check this:
>> 
>>>>>> When GAE moves to 3.0 and the database drivers for all supported
>>>>>> backends become available we will release something like web3py (TM).
>>>>>> Since we are going to break language backward compatibility that will
>>>>>> also be a good time to include other non-backward compatible changes.
>>>>>> 2010-2011 are reasonable dates but just a guess.
>> 
>>>>> URL:http://www.mail-archive.com/web2py@googlegroups.com/msg09344.html
>> 
>>>>> On 6 fev, 08:12, pihentagy <pihent...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> Hi!
>> 
>>>>>> Looking into the code of IS_UPPER I realized, that this function does
>>>>>> not do, what I expect to do.
>>>>>> I thought it only allows strings, which does not have lowercase
>>>>>> letters, but it actually converts the string to uppercase.
>> 
>>>>>> Since web2py promises backwards compatibility, and here IMHO this
>>>>>> method is mis-named, how would you solve the situation?
>> 
>>>>>> BTW when I come across the fact, that web2py will be always backwards
>>>>>> compatible, a loud alarm began to horn in my head: then how would you
>>>>>> maintain the code in 2, 3, 10 years? It will blow up.
>> 
>>>>>> Or, when it becomes hard to maintain, you began a new project named
>>>>>> web3py? :)
>> 
>>>>>> Gergo
>> 
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