I can't wait to see it running on the ipad, although we may want to make it a little more user friendly for that.
On Feb 15, 9:20 am, Christopher Steel <[email protected]> wrote: > LOL! > > I for one love the built in web2py editor. I am even starting to > become fond of it's little refresh requirement quirk. It turns web2py > into an awesome little sketch pad right out of the box and it is > available no matter what system I am on and requires ZERO > configuration. The other great thing about it is that when I use it I > never feel like I am "working", I am just trying something out. > > After going to the trouble of setting up a "proper" development > environment, a la Eclipse and other more serious IDE's I find that I > use that damned web based editor all the time anyway! It rocks! > > Now days when I am "getting serious" I might bounce back and forth > between the web2py editor and Eclipse or JEdit or some other multi os > compatible IDE/Editor in order to cleanup or better organize code but > strange as it may seem I really do use that damned built in editor all > the time! In my "serious" editor I do my coding, then ctrl+a, ctrl+c, > alt-tab to web2py, ctrl+v, save, run and tweak. Works like a charm... > Oh, right, then you have that ever so special "feature" that requires > a "refresh" every time you make a change which is built in negative re- > enforcement for sloppy coding, perfect for lazy students and lazy > professional alike! > > ; ) > > As far as the online database designer, it was sort of helpful in a > pedagogical sort of way, but I never use it any more, although I could > imagine using it to print out a nice database diagram for an > interested client someday. > > Chris > > On Feb 12, 12:44 pm, mdipierro <[email protected]> wrote: > > > You do not have to use it. I rarely use it. It is not hard to maintain > > (the code is very small). I found it very useful in two occasions: > > > 1) access a server remotely when no ssh available. It has happened > > that a bug showed up during a presentation using a machine not mine > > and I was able to inspect the code in real time, fix in in the browser > > and people where impressed. > > > 2) I use web2py for teaching. More than 50% of the undergrads and > > grads when you say "open a shell" they answer "shell what?". I have > > had students in CS asking me questions like "ever you have heard of > > this thing called Linux? What is it exactly?" or "which editor is > > required for your advanced network programming class?". Mind that this > > is a minority of people. Most of the students are bright and learn > > fast. Still my intent with web2py is not to serve only the brightest > > ones. > > > Massimo > > > On Feb 12, 11:35 am, snfctech <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I'm just getting started with web2py and I must say - I love the > > > code. Adding validation logic with the DAL and building forms on the > > > fly with the CRUD helper is awesome. > > > > That said, I don't understand the point of the admin interface - > > > especially the online database designer and the editor. The online > > > database designer doesn't generate 'upload' types (and I imagine other > > > DAL specific syntax, as well). And the editor is too weak for any > > > serious coding. > > > > So why does this extra fluff exist at all, as it will require > > > resources to maintain and enhance? Not to mention it adds more > > > unnecessary options for new users wondering about best practices for > > > web2py development. This doesn't seem in keeping with "there should > > > be one obvious way to do it." > > > > The only thing I can think of why things like the editor and designer > > > exist at all is to promote the "full stack" idea. But is it really > > > worth the effort to include sub-standard tools in the stack which you > > > will have to abandon anyway once you start serious development work? > > > > Thanks in advance for helping me to understand the reasoning here. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
