Getafreelancer is what some of my students use to get their homework
done. Does not resonate very well with me. :-(

Massimo

On May 23, 10:15 pm, Álvaro Justen <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 20:18, mdipierro <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I have some problems:
>
> > 1) people ask me to contribute to more projects that I can handle.
> > 2) I am good at kicking off a project (20% of the work) but I am not
> > the best person to bring it to production (the other 80%) of the work.
> > 3) I want to delegate some of these projects to users I trust. I need
> > to better keep track of you, the users, your skills and interests.
>
> > You and I have some problems in common:
> > 1)  you are an individual or you own a small consulting company and
> > you find hard to compete for large projects
> > 2) you want to use web2py but you need to sell web2py before you can
> > sell yoru services.
> > 3) you need legal help (sample non-disclosure agreement, sample
> > contracts, etc.)
> > 4) for large projects you need to find people who can help you with
> > development (you man need a designer, a coder, a system administrator,
> > a GAE expert, etc).
> > 5) you want somebody else to handle advertising for you
>
> > I want to help. I want to help you find development jobs, network, and
> > compete for larger projects by providing some assistance.
>
> > I am about to create something like an association of web2py
> > professionals with a portal that provides web sites for members,
> > repository of legal forms, job posting, progress tracking, feedback
> > forms, etc. Here is the basic idea: we do not advertise web2py, we
> > advertise the association and its members. you find a client? you keep
> > all the money. You want to offer your client long term support or code
> > review? the association will sell that to the client directly
> > directly. You want to be listed as a member? Follow a code of conduct
> > (basically use approved tools and ask your clients to review your work
> > publicly). You already have a consulting company or an employer? You
> > can have the company listed as an associate under some conditions.
>
> > We can turn our group into a large international consulting
> > organization overnight. There would be no contract between the
> > association and you other than a code of conduct that you will have to
> > follow to be listed and that I am about to wrote. You can continue to
> > work as an individual or with your existing company. The association
> > will just help when you need help.
>
> > The association may also partner with some member to provide venture
> > capital in the form of code development (and perhaps money but not
> > immediately) for specific projects submitted to the association, in
> > exchange of shares.
>
> > I have already incorporated to do this. This will be independent and
> > complementary form web2py itself and web2py would not be the only tool
> > in the association approved toolkit.
>
> > For now the toolkit will include: web2py, ubuntu, postgresql, jquery,
> > and google app engine. You as an individual or a company can provide
> > services based on other tools but the association will endorse these
> > tools because we can easily find people skilled in them and you, as a
> > member, will be required to endorse these tools as good tools and
> > demonstrate your skills in some of them (not all of them).
>
> > web2py is a tool. We will all outlive web2py. But we have created
> > something important here. A community of skilled professional that
> > share some experience. I want to see this grow with web2py and beyond
> > web2py later. I want to see us compete with large consulting
> > companies. I want to do it using a new business model in which there
> > are no shareholders to take a cut of your work since they would not be
> > providing any means of production to you (you already own a laptop and
> > that is your office), yet I want to provide the other benefits that a
> > large corporation can offer (a single image, consistency,
> > reliability).
>
> > Not sure if there should be an admission criteria. I could use your
> > feedback about this.
>
> > Comments? Thought? You do not have to commit to anything now but who
> > is interested?
>
> I'm very interested on this.
> What about integrate this system with third-party ones? Like
> getafreelancer, oDesk etc. So we don't need to start 'from scratch'
> when dealing with trusting a programmer or not.
> Please, let me know what I can do to help.
>
> --
> Álvaro Justen - Turicas
>  http://blog.justen.eng.br/
>  21 9898-0141

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