Yes Michele, +1 to web pages! I often see frameworks being compared in threaded discussions. That's such a waste of time when a simple reference to a webpage could tell a much better and more complete story.
It is a shame that when some newbie enters a search like 'web2py vs django|flask|rails' they might so easily find some long argumentative thread peppered with expletives with someone unfairly ranting about something Massimo said in 2007. This was certainly my initial experience and I can say it was quite off-putting. We could then collectively always reference these pages in other threads. The backlinks would really boost the SEO and the inevitable scrutiny of devotees of other frameworks would help us keep the pages accurate and fair. -David On Dec 23, 11:55 pm, Michele Comitini <[email protected]> wrote: > Maybe we should keep a comparison just on web2py.com. Pay attention > to framework lists around and putting a sane description there. > It is useless and even counterproductive starting flame wars in > threaded discussions. It is more importante that googlers find web2py > when > they search a good framework to work with. > > 2010/12/24 JmiXIII <[email protected]>: > > > Just to give a pleased newbie feed-back : > > > _I'm newbie to web2py (well a couple of month) > > _I've never studied informatics nor did I have an informatic job > > > BUT I needed something to handle database easely + human interface + > > network for my job > > I tried a crack access => beurk => begin to learn python > > I tried Zope/Plone => too heavy > > I tried Django => not enough efficient for what I wanted > > > THEN > > I've seen some comparaison made by Massimo between Django and web2py > > 'do not remember the url) > > AND This is these comparisons which decided me to try web2py > > I'm very pleased because it is so efficient > > > you are right VP , it's a waste of time to fuel the fire. But a short > > comparison would help newbies to make their choice and choose to try > > web2py. Yet I'm speaking of comparison showing the efficientness of > > web2py not long long debates/war. > > > On 23 déc, 23:51, VP <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Dec 23, 3:44 am, Branko Vukelić <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > Or am I missing something? > > >> > In the summary, also no mention of Django or Flask. > > >> My comment is not just about that specific thread of discussion, but > >> about a general PR strategy of web2py. My suggestion to Massimo > >> still stands. Forget about Flask and Django !!! Don't talk about > >> them at all. None. Nothing. > > >> People who think that Django/Flask are superior to web2py, and/or > >> web2py is deeply flawed, aren't changing their minds. There's no > >> point to debate, justify, etc. > > >> I do not see much benefit for web2py when Massimo discusses Django/ > >> Flask. On the other hand, the (serious) newbies will get lost in hot > >> exchanges between the web2py folks and the Django/Flask folks. > >> Occasionally, this dude Armin will come around the proclaim web2py to > >> be the worst thing there is. And my suggestion to Massimo is that he > >> will have to live with that, and instead of spending energy to justify > >> him, turn that energy into making web2py to be a great platform. > > >> Specifically, to attract newbies, I would recommend making Chapter 3 > >> of the book to be better than it currently is. Right now, it's very > >> good. But I think there are places that can be improved. This > >> chapter is where web2py can be/should be showcased to attract the > >> newbies. This comes from my experience when I first learned about > >> web2py. > >
