I am afraid I do not understand you reasoning:

I can do 

rows = db(db.sometable).select(
cacheable=True, cache = (ram.cache,3600))
data = SQLTABLE(rows)

or I can do 

query = db.sometable.id>0
data = SQLFORM.grid(query)

or

data = SQLFORM.smartgrid(db.sometable)

and how do I use those improvements in the latter 2 cases.  That is what I 
have asked in my first email.  

So what do you mean that it has nothing to do with grid/smartgrid where 
both of them run queries?

Regards
Johann



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