Ok, the fact that chromium-win's fallback behaviour uses win results but 
doesn't match win's fallback behaviour is what I was missing. Couldn't we also 
address that by changing the behaviour of chromium-win?

- Mark

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On Jul 10, 2011, at 15:55, Adam Barth <[email protected]> wrote:

> Because the LayoutTest fallback graph is a mess, hence this email thread.  :)
> 
> More proximately, because when the "chromium-mac-leopard" (for
> example) fallback path flows through "mac-leopard", it flows to
> "mac-snowleopard" alongside the fallback path that originates with
> "mac-leopard".  Now, in the case of "win", when the "chromium-win"
> (for example) fallback path flows through "win", it flows thereafter
> to "mac" directly whereas the fallback path that originates with "win"
> takes a detour by way of "mac-snowleopard".  The fact that these two
> fallback paths diverge at this point is one of the reasons the
> fallback graph is not a tree.
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Mark Rowe <[email protected]> wrote:
>> We seem to be talking past one another. Why are there two edges originating 
>> at win, but not mac-leopard?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 15:23, Adam Barth <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Mark Rowe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 14:27, Adam Barth <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Mark Rowe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 13:57, Adam Barth <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Mark Rowe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2011-07-10, at 13:20, Adam Barth wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Sure.  I'll highlight the relevant section of my original email:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Adam Barth <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> These changes have the following virtues:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> A) The resulting fallback graph will be a tree, making the fallback
>>>>>>>>>> graph easier to understand for both humans and automated tools.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I don't see how Windows falling back to mac-snowleopard has any effect 
>>>>>>>> on that.  It's no different than mac-leopard in that regard.  Then 
>>>>>>>> again, maybe the diagram is trying to convey something that I'm 
>>>>>>>> missing due to having no idea what the difference is between the 
>>>>>>>> myriad of different line styles in the diagram.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Notice that the circle for "win" has two arrows emanating from it.
>>>>>>> One of those arrows goes to "mac" and the other goes to
>>>>>>> "mac-snowleopard".  That means that of the fallback paths that transit
>>>>>>> "win", one path flows through "mac-snowlepard" where as the remainder
>>>>>>> flow through "mac".  If we change "win" to fall back to "mac", then
>>>>>>> the graph becomes more tree-like.  (If make change (2) as well, then
>>>>>>> the graph globally becomes a tree.)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can you please clarify what the edges in your diagram, along with what 
>>>>>> the different line styles, represent?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sure.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks. My confusion here comes from the idea that Windows falling back on 
>>>> SnowLeopard causes some sort of "non-tree"-like complexity that other 
>>>> platforms falling back via SnowLeopard aren't also subject to. The 
>>>> behaviour of Leopard and Windows seems incredibly similar in this regard 
>>>> so I'm very unclear as to why only Windows is problematic.
>>> 
>>> Being a tree is a global property, not a local property.  There are
>>> two edges emanating from "win".  In order for the graph to be a tree
>>> one of them must be removed.  Neither one, in isolation, makes the
>>> graph not a tree.
>>> 
>>>> There's an additional confusing element here:  Only a subset of 
>>>> Lion-specific results are currently checked in. The difference between mac 
>>>> and mac-snowleopard results is likely much bigger than you realise.
>>> 
>>> Ah, well, I, of course, can't see invisible results.
>>> 
>>> Adam
>> 
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