A good start would be a freely available, free to implement, open standard.
Adam On Oct 13, 2012 7:19 PM, "Graham Mudd" <graham.m...@samsung.com> wrote: > I think the objections to this are reasonable and it's probably worth a > note on why we proposed this. > > The problem with the HbbTV standard is that it's not just a paper spec > anymore, it's now widely deployed in several European countries. > > Germany is the leading market for HbbTV, but there are many other > countries lining up to follow suit. > > As a result, there are probably millions of CE devices out there which > support HbbTV - and I'm pretty sure it will be tens of millions soon (if it > isn't already). > > There are also a large number of live apps now, with plenty more in > development. I'm not sure if that qualifies as a "wealth of existing > content", but it's there. > > So for better or worse, as the developers of TV software we have to build > HbbTV capability into our stack. And I know we aren't the only CE device > maker using WebKit to do this, so we offered up the patches to see if there > was any interest in incorporating them. > > Now we have a definitive answer, we'll have to find a plan B. > > Given your points about the direction of WebKit in general, we will raise > these issues with the group that develops the standard. Maybe there are > things that can be made more WebKit friendly in HbbTV 2.0. > > > > Regards > > Graham > > > > > > ------- *Original Message* ------- > > *Sender* : Randall Bennett<randall.benn...@gmail.com> > > *Date* : Oct 12, 2012 21:20 (GMT+01:00) > > *Title* : Re: [webkit-dev] HbbTV support within Webkit > > > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Maciej Stachowiak <m...@apple.com>wrote: > >> >> On Oct 11, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Mark Toller <mark.tol...@samsung.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Dominik Röttsches [mailto:dominik.rottsc...@intel.com] >> >> >> >> On 10/10/2012 10:26 AM, Mark Toller wrote: >> >>> What we would like to see initially is Webkit based browsers (Chrome, >> >>> Safari, Minibrowser, etc) actually load HbbTV pages instead of asking >> >>> the user to download the content - this would indirectly benefit the >> >>> end goal of Webkit (to get everyone to support standard W3C/HTML5)... >> >> >> >> This particular change is just a matter of adding one more displayable >> >> mime-type, right? >> > >> > Almost. I've created a bug and patch for this particular change: >> > >> > https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99049 >> > >> > As someone else stated, I think the best approach is to create >> > a bug for each change we consider worthwhile, and then they can be >> > considered individually. >> >> I don't think we should take this change or accept this feature in >> general. It seems that of those who have spoken up, the WebKit community is >> not in favor of this direction. >> > > > Even though the specific change in that patch is relatively small, >> supporting custom MIME types has significant disadvantages: >> >> - Creates interoperability issues with other browsers. >> - Fragments the web >> - Opens us up to further requests to add support for similarly niche MIME >> types in the future >> >> If CE-HTML and HbbTV content is fine to process as ordinary HTML, then it >> should be served with text/html MIME type. That would avoid all of these >> problems. If a consortium decided to create custom mime types instead, then >> they made a mistake and should fix it. In some cases, when the technology >> is compelling or there is a wealth of existing content, we live with >> arguable errors in the standard. But neither of those considerations >> applies here. >> >> Regards, >> Maciej >> >> _______________________________________________ >> webkit-dev mailing list >> webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org >> http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev >> > > > +1. As someone who builds applications specifically for TV producers, I > feel that this custom mime type is the first in a series of bad moves. > > Why doesn't the HBB group form its own W3 style group? I think this is > just heading in the wrong direction. > > rb > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > webkit-dev mailing list > webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org > http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev > >
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