On Apr 10, 2013, at 2:29 AM, "Pozdnyakov, Mikhail" <mikhail.pozdnya...@intel.com> wrote:
> > >> Why not infer ParallelArrays automatically? > Sorry, did not get it. Could you please elaborate? Normal JS arrays. You use them with pure computation. Profiler notices this. And then the same things that you have in the ParallelArrays proposal now work except you don't need a new type. > > I'm not insisting on this concrete proposal, my point is just that it would > be more safe and natural to enhance > ECMAScript (enable parallel calculations there) rather than make developers > to introduce OpenCL snippets to their web apps. It's even more natural to not add yet another array type to ECMAScript. -F > > BR, > Mikhail > > ________________________________________ > From: Filip Pizlo [fpi...@apple.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:37 AM > To: Pozdnyakov, Mikhail > Cc: Jer Noble; Benjamin Poulain; webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org > Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] Is there a plan for supporting multi-process and > WebCL in webkit > > Why not infer ParallelArrays automatically? What is the specific reason for > requiring a new type? > > -Filip > > > On Apr 10, 2013, at 12:16 AM, "Pozdnyakov, Mikhail" > <mikhail.pozdnya...@intel.com<mailto:mikhail.pozdnya...@intel.com>> wrote: > > Hi, > > As far as I'm concerned WebCL would have serious security issues as it lets > web app to provide OpenCL target code (which is really unsafe), > besides its using requires OpenCL knowledge and hence might be too complex > for a web developer. > Good alternative could be enabling parallel calculations inside ECMAScript > itself. For instance providing ParallelArray interface for map-reduce > calculations, there is actually a proposal already at > http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=strawman:data_parallelism . > > BR, > Mikhail > > ________________________________________ > From: > webkit-dev-boun...@lists.webkit.org<mailto:webkit-dev-boun...@lists.webkit.org> > > [webkit-dev-boun...@lists.webkit.org<mailto:webkit-dev-boun...@lists.webkit.org>] > on behalf of Jer Noble [jer.no...@apple.com<mailto:jer.no...@apple.com>] > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 11:23 PM > To: Benjamin Poulain > Cc: webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org<mailto:webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org> > Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] Is there a plan for supporting multi-process and > WebCL in webkit > > On Apr 9, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Benjamin Poulain > <benja...@webkit.org<mailto:benja...@webkit.org><mailto:benja...@webkit.org>> > wrote: > > I am very curious about the source of interest in OpenCL on browser. While > OpenCL is a great technology, I have the feeling it is not ready for the web. > What kind of applications do you foresee being powered by OpenCL on the Web? > > I can imagine some use of CPU based kernels for the web (for image > manipulation for example). But I have a hard time seeing how adding full > support of OpenCL would not be shooting ourself in the foot at this point. > That may change in the future when GPU hardware converges… > > There has also been interest in the WebAudio WG about using OpenCL/WebCL for > custom audio processing. There are significant performance issues involved > with doing custom audio processing in JavaScript, even in a Worker thread, > but WebCL may offer performance and memory characteristics which would couple > well with the requirements of realtime audio threads. > > -Jer > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Intel Finland Oy > Registered Address: PL 281, 00181 Helsinki > Business Identity Code: 0357606 - 4 > Domiciled in Helsinki > > This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for > the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution > by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. > > _______________________________________________ > webkit-dev mailing list > webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org<mailto:webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org> > https://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Intel Finland Oy > Registered Address: PL 281, 00181 Helsinki > Business Identity Code: 0357606 - 4 > Domiciled in Helsinki > > This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for > the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution > by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. > _______________________________________________ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org https://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev
