30.09.2013, 17:39, "Dirk Schulze" <k...@webkit.org>:
> On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:58 AM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen <k...@carewolf.com> wrote:
>
>>  On Thursday 26 September 2013, Andreas Kling wrote:
>>>  On Sep 25, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen <k...@carewolf.com>
>>  wrote:
>>>>  On Saturday 14 September 2013, Andreas Kling wrote:
>>>>>  On Sep 14, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen <k...@carewolf.com>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>  That said, in all likelihood the Qt port will not remain part of WebKit
>>>>>>  forever, ...
>>>>>  (This being the main reason.)
>>>>>
>>>>>  Since you already know you’re eventually going to leave, you could just
>>>>>  move to a branch sooner rather than later. It’s unreasonable to expect
>>>>>  WebKit to accommodate a port that has no forward-looking interest in the
>>>>>  project.
>>>>  We do have a  branch tagged and being prepared for 5.2. It was taken
>>>>  before the FTL merge and the following switch to require C++11 in all of
>>>>  the project. It will be very hard branch again after that point since we
>>>>  support 2-3 year old platforms by default, and the Webkit project want
>>>>  to move to using the latest and greatest compilers.
>>>  So you are saying that you'll never branch QtWebKit from WebKit trunk
>>>  again?
>>  I would love to, but I do not think it is going to happen. Quite honestly I
>>  wasn't sure I would be able to pull a new branch for 5.2 off, since older
>>  Linux (gcc 4.4), all windows builds and especially old OS X (10.6) were not
>>  building WebKit2 when I started. I got it working, but it the work to unroll
>>  unnecessary compiler features and library dependencies is just going to get
>>  harder from now on (if anyone want a patch to remove the C++11 requirement
>>  from WebKit2 late July, I have one).  If a new branch is made from WebKit
>>  trunk in the future would likely only be limited to specific platforms, and
>>  therefore not suited as a module shipped with Qt, but as an optional 
>> upgrade.
>>>  It’s commendable that you want to land your platform-agnostic patches
>>>  before withdrawing from the project, but assuming your last branch point
>>>  is already set, I don’t see why this necessitates keeping the Qt platform
>>>  code around.
>>  We all know what happens when a webkit port works on a branch. In theory it
>>  shouldn't be a problem, but as you know it didn't work for the N9 browser
>>  branch in Nokia, it didn't even work for the iOS branch at Apple!
>>
>>  So based on observations, I believe to be part of the project and able to
>>  commit upstream you must live upstream.
>
> I would not necessarily disagree with the problem of upstreaming work. But 
> you said that most likely you wouldn't be able to branch WebKit anymore 
> because of the compiler requirement.  At least for Qt. Do you have other 
> interests in QtWebKit beside the integral part of Qt so that it makes sense 
> for you to maintain the port further?
>
> Another question that is just partly related to WebKit but more curiosity.  
> Qt is deep integration into WebKit. We have (had?) a lot of Qt specific code 
> in core WebCore to support QtXML and other things. Blink already stated that 
> they would not accept such deep interventions in their platform. Is all that 
> not important for you anymore? Can you operate with libxml2 and other 
> libraries from now on? If that is the case, can't we limit the Qt specific 
> code to just /platform/qt and remove all other Qt specific dependencies from 
> WebCore?

For embedded targets libxml2 would be an additional dependency to build, and it 
would take additional space in device firmware. New XML parser from [1] would 
be better alternative if it was finished (and had decent performance).

[1] https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64396

-- 
Regards,
Konstantin
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