> 12 мая 2017 г., в 16:12, Sam Weinig <wei...@apple.com> написал(а):
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 12, 2017, at 2:49 PM, Alexey Proskuryakov <a...@webkit.org 
>> <mailto:a...@webkit.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 12 мая 2017 г., в 14:38, Sam Weinig <wei...@apple.com 
>>> <mailto:wei...@apple.com>> написал(а):
>>> 
>>> I regret piling on here, as I think this thread has diverged from it’s 
>>> original purpose, but…I understand this frustration. That said, perhaps 
>>> this is something we can solve with some tooling. For instance, a 
>>> run-test-in-safari (as a parallel to run-safari) script could be made which 
>>> starts the server, and then loads the test with the right URL in your built 
>>> Safari (or MiniBrowser, or whatever).  
>> 
>> 
>> That's still not good enough, as this means that I can't point someone else 
>> to an instance of the test on trac.webkit.org <http://trac.webkit.org/> to 
>> reproduce an issue. There is of course be another place to point to when/if 
>> the test gets upstreamed, but even that doesn't support stable links like 
>> trac does.
>> 
>> That's not to mention that learning the name of this proposed script is no 
>> easier than learning about run-webkit-httpd.
>> 
>> - Alexey
>> 
> 
> 
> I’m not sure what you mean by “good enough”.  Good enough for what?  What are 
> we debating here?

I think that I explained it very clearly, but let me try again.

When there is a test failure that I need to communicate to others, I say 
something "please open 
<https://trac.webkit.org/export/216812/webkit/trunk/LayoutTests/fast/images/destroyed-image-load-event.html
 
<https://trac.webkit.org/export/216812/webkit/trunk/LayoutTests/fast/images/border.html>>
 in Safari to reproduce". That's very easy to do, and makes it very easy for 
others to work on the issue.

If your test requires complex setup, like WPT does, then I may not have the 
time to write up complicated steps to reproduce, or the person who gets the bug 
may not have the time to follow them. Those people don't have a WebKit 
checkout, so scripts won't help. This makes the test less effective, as 
problems that it finds are less likely to be addressed.

- Alexey

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