On Jul 12, 8:57 am, Nandan Bagchee <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I have a pretty big project written in Python/Django, but I got pretty
> > tired of Python and I want to move to a more productive environment.
>
> Without making this OT, I thought Django was considered very productive?
> Somehow lately I've been hearing more negatives about it..

It is productive compared to doing everything by hand :)  But, at
least conceptually, weblocks seems to be handling a lot of stuff that
Django doesn't handle (like workflows, ajax, components).

>
> > So I'm considering two solutions:
> > 1. Clojure + Vaadin + some ORM
>
> I semi-evaluated Vaadin some while back. It is promising, and has a similar
> philosophy to weblocks -- everything is done at the backend using seamless
> ajax, so malicious manipulation at the front end is less effective. In terms
> of baked in widgets etc. Vaadin is quite complete, far more so than weblocks
> is. It wasn't really an option because we didn't want to work in java.
> Perhaps you could evaluate how easy it would be to extend with custom
> widgets (and hey, while I'm at it how about a tutorial? ;-)

Tomek Lipski recently posted a simple integration tutorial here:
http://dev.vaadin.com/wiki/Articles/ClojureScripting
So based on that I put it together and you just call the Vaadin Java
classes from Clojure and that's basically it, I didn't do much more.
I don't know how to extend it with custom widgets, that's probably in
the Vaadin book.

> > But it's a hard decision so I wanted to ask you the following
> > questions:
> > 1. is it easy/possible to implement long poll for continuous updates
> > of content from the server to the client in weblocks (for a chat
> > feature, and similiar)?
>
> I would suggest using node.js for comet-y kind of scenarios. Otherwise at
> any significant load you'll have issues.

But node.js doesn't have anything to do with CL or weblocks does it?

Thanks for the rest of your reply, acknowledged ;)

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