Hi Lachlan, hi David!

I just wanted to make a point here mentioning that I really appreciate that
Apple is doing somthing in improving the tools. Sure nothing is perfect. The
world is not perfect... never. I mean, yeah, improvement is necessary and a
great thing.

Perhaps i was a little fast with my statement to praise the engineering team
at Apple for the improvements. Sorry for that one. Perhaps I just got used
to the small inconveniences the tools have and always had. Even under Mac OS
X Server 1.2 WebObjects had some flaws, that's life.

But it seems as if I am claimig a lonesome position here. Nothing is ever as
bad as it seems. Thats my point of view.

regards,
helge


Am 18.11.2005 3:07 Uhr schrieb "Lachlan Deck" unter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi there,
> 
> On 18/11/2005, at 1:43 AM, Helge Staedtler wrote:
> 
>> I have seen a lot of bugs fixed on the list Apple provides for the
>> latest
>> release. And thats great.
> 
> Sure. But lots of new ones have arisen with the latest release...
> 
>> I think that *some* of the described behaviours of WebObjects
>> Builder are,
>> well.. you get used to them and there will always be *some* things
>> which can
>> be improved. It's not that it damages something or breaks
>> something. It is
>> just some "inconvenience" and not a "bug" I would say.
> 
> No,
> - if bindings do not stick when creating a new key that's a bug.
> - if WebObjects builder opens a sheet Xcode should not hang when
> attemping to create a new file
> - <snips list of many interface bugs with WebObjects Builder 5.3.1>
> 
>> I have not tried the 5.3.1 in conjunction with xCode 2.2, but the
> 
> Ahh - well then you've not been able to appreciate the reason for the
> noise on the list ;-)
> When you have upgraded you'll see what we mean.
> 
> Though the new WebObjects Builder's interface is buggy it shows a lot
> of promise and I for one am glad that there's been an update to it
> after all this time - and look forward even more to when the
> interface bugs are ironed out. i.e., 5.3.1 is worse in various ways
> to the previous 5.2.4 builder - but it won't trash your files, just
> cause a little frustration with having to reapply bindings, figure
> out which side of a WOString to click so that the inspector
> recognises that you've selected something and so on... you get used
> to it but it needs fixing.
> 
>> WOBuilder-"inconveniences" seem far less important than the
>> EOModel.plugin
>> for xCode if using xCode for this is the path of the future.
> 
> Both need work - but seeing as you spend more time in WebObjects
> Builder than EOModeler (once you've got your eos modelled) then,
> well, you know, you need a tool that isn't quite so sensitive ;-)
> 
> with regards,
> --
> 
> Lachlan Deck
> 
> 


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