I have not come across any bugs in EOF that have caused us to contact Apple for support since 1997. I just want to make sure that I don¹t tick off any of those lawyer types.
On 1/23/07 6:15 PM, "Ray Kiddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 23, 2007, at 2:57 PM, Joshua Archer wrote: > >> Deployment of 5.3 is free and legal on any platform, using the developer key >> found inside of the webobjects foundation framework. I'm not certain why >> everyone's so squirrelly about giving straight answers on this one, but >> that's perhaps just part of the general Apple corporate culture. I've gotten >> from several sources inside Apple that it's cool to go ahead and deploy >> anywhere you like. >> >> (n'est-ce pas?) >> > > I think that the difficulty people have with this comes from varying meanings > of the word "support". > > People keep asking if deployment on other platforms is "supported". If support > means that Apple is required to answer even one question you might have about > deploying on Linux, the answer will probably be no. > > Apple has not been hostile to seeing WO become useful on other platforms. They > have been saying in various public fora that they want to interoperate with, > for example, ant. If things are more compatible with ant, does this mean that > use on other platforms is easier or harder? My guess is that it gets easier. > > Look at the ant project types that the Java group has been putting out. Are > they "supported" on Windows? Is this even a sensible or necessary question? > > There is a customer base for which the definition of "support" is important. > If you are going to be subject to Sarbanes-Oxley auditing and you have to > document the "pedigree" and "right to use" of every single piece of your tool > chain, then you should probably decide if Apple's license is acceptable to > you. Perhaps you are in a federally-funded organization, or your shareholders > are suing your management. But those people have lawyers that work for them > who give them the answer to their questions. > > Do you worry about Apple's interpretation of "support" in this context? Do you > have a lawyer on staff that you can direct the question to? If not, maybe that > should tell you something. > > As for me, if I want to get a "no" answer to any question, I ask a lawyer. > Otherwise, I do code. > > - ray > > >> On Jan 23, 2007, at 2:50 PM, Dov Rosenberg wrote: >> >>> I have been trying to figure out what if any licensing requirements are in >>> place for WebObjects 5.3 applications deployed out as servlets on non OSX >>> platforms. I assume that OSX platforms (at least OSX Server) have a valid >>> WebObjects license on them. >>> >>> The Apple software licensing site discussion ends at 5.2 (when WebObjects >>> was embedded in with Xcode). I placed a call to the Apple Software Licensing >>> group in Dallas and they were not very helpful at all. They told me to look >>> at the Developer.apple.com site which contained no more information. >>> >>> Is it safe to assume that any app developed with Xcode (or Eclipse using >>> WOLips) is free from license fees? Most of our deployments are on non OSX >>> platforms including (Windows, Linux, and Solaris). >>> >>> I need some information ASAP. Thanks in advance. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dov Rosenberg >>> Conviveon/Inquira >>> Knowledge Management Experts >>> http://www.conviveon.com >>> http://www.inquira.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/joshua%40yaboogie.com >>> >>> This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/ray%40ganymede.org >> >> This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/drosenberg%40inquira.com > > This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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