<? extends Death> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Guido Neitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, strangled ... > > cug > > > On 22.07.2008, at 09:30, Florijan Stamenkovic wrote: > > :) I'd probably get shot >> >> F >> >> On Jul 22, 2008, at 10:52, Pascal Robert wrote: >> >> You should do a "I love generics" session at WOWODC 09 :-P >>> >>> Andrew, >>>> >>>> I agree. And I've found that after reading about how they are actually >>>> implemented in Java, most of the *quirks* start to make sense. So, in my >>>> opinion, if you do not count the decision not to include generic typing >>>> into >>>> the VM, they are implemented quite sensibly. Also, once I got used to their >>>> peculiarities, I stopped having extra work about them, I'd say they even >>>> make me work faster. For me nowadays the worst thing about using generic is >>>> that occasionally I have to @suppressWarnings to get the compiler to stop >>>> whining about something that will infallibly work. Besides that, I'm happy. >>>> >>>> As for Lachlan's problem, I remember once being in a similar situation. >>>> When first trying to deal with defining generic Comparators for sorting. I >>>> can't recall the details, but remember not being able to tweak my code so >>>> it >>>> is functional in all legal situations. I finally got it solved by >>>> rearranging <? super Something>, <Something> and <? extends Something>. My >>>> point being, it was my lack of detailed understanding of Java generics that >>>> was the problem, not the generics per se. >>>> >>>> F >>>> >>>> On Jul 21, 2008, at 23:55, Andrew Lindesay wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Guido; >>>>> >>>>> Coming from the Objective-C mindset they do seem really rather >>>>> annoying, but I find after some months of playing with them that they are >>>>> actually helpful in order to know what is inside otherwise unstructured >>>>> collections. I have also, in implementing generics, identified a couple >>>>> of >>>>> "invisible" bugs in some caching code which was quite neat and this showed >>>>> me how generics can actually be helpful to identify problems too. So I've >>>>> come to a point where I think they're actually quite handy despite the >>>>> extra >>>>> work they create. >>>>> >>>>> cheers. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe I'm just too spoiled from Objective-C. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Andrew Lindesay >>>>> www.lindesay.co.nz >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/flor385%40mac.com >>>>> >>>>> This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca >>>> >>>> This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>> Pascal Robert >>> >>> http://www.macti.ca >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/macti >>> >>> Skype: MacTICanada >>> AIM/iChat : MacTICanada >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/lists%40event-s.net >> >> This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > -- > http://www.event-s.net > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/varscsak%40smarthealth.com > > This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
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