See, it's confusing! ;) On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Florijan Stamenkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> More likely "F implements Death"... I see you like generics, but there is > such a thing as overuse :P > > F > > On Jul 22, 2008, at 12:40, Lon Varscsak wrote: > > <? extends Death> >> >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Guido Neitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> No, strangled ... >> >> cug >> >> >> On 22.07.2008, at 09:30, Florijan Stamenkovic wrote: >> >> :) I'd probably get shot >> >> F >> >> On Jul 22, 2008, at 10:52, Pascal Robert wrote: >> >> You should do a "I love generics" session at WOWODC 09 :-P >> >> Andrew, >> >> I agree. And I've found that after reading about how they are actually >> implemented in Java, most of the *quirks* start to make sense. So, in my >> opinion, if you do not count the decision not to include generic typing into >> the VM, they are implemented quite sensibly. Also, once I got used to their >> peculiarities, I stopped having extra work about them, I'd say they even >> make me work faster. For me nowadays the worst thing about using generic is >> that occasionally I have to @suppressWarnings to get the compiler to stop >> whining about something that will infallibly work. Besides that, I'm happy. >> >> As for Lachlan's problem, I remember once being in a similar situation. >> When first trying to deal with defining generic Comparators for sorting. I >> can't recall the details, but remember not being able to tweak my code so it >> is functional in all legal situations. I finally got it solved by >> rearranging <? super Something>, <Something> and <? extends Something>. My >> point being, it was my lack of detailed understanding of Java generics that >> was the problem, not the generics per se. >> >> F >> >> On Jul 21, 2008, at 23:55, Andrew Lindesay wrote: >> >> Hello Guido; >> >> Coming from the Objective-C mindset they do seem really rather annoying, >> but I find after some months of playing with them that they are actually >> helpful in order to know what is inside otherwise unstructured collections. >> I have also, in implementing generics, identified a couple of "invisible" >> bugs in some caching code which was quite neat and this showed me how >> generics can actually be helpful to identify problems too. So I've come to >> a point where I think they're actually quite handy despite the extra work >> they create. >> >> cheers. >> >> Maybe I'm just too spoiled from Objective-C. >> >> ___ >> Andrew Lindesay >> www.lindesay.co.nz >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/flor385%40mac.com >> >> This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca >> >> This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> Pascal Robert >> >> http://www.macti.ca >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/macti >> >> Skype: MacTICanada >> AIM/iChat : MacTICanada >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/lists%40event-s.net >> >> This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> -- >> http://www.event-s.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/varscsak% >> 40smarthealth.com >> >> This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/flor385%40mac.com >> >> This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >
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