On Aug 15, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Mersida Kurti wrote:

Thank you, we will give it another shot, we really don't have an option :) I agree that its ALOT easier to use, but at least WOBuilder gave you the possibility to take a look at how the GUI would look like right then and there...I'm not sure if Component Editor can do that.

Better to use a browser that can do CSS and JS properly and not give some messy, hacked up view of what might be.

Click2Open is your best friend (and YACMT)
http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/Click+to+Open

C2O Rocks!  Try doing that with WOBuilder!


Chuck


--- On Fri, 8/15/08, Kieran Kelleher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Kieran Kelleher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WOBuilder substitute for Eclipse 3.3+ in Leopard
To: "Mersida Kurti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "WebObjects Dev" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 12:08 PM

I usually find that WO developers who initially feel uncomfortable with Component Editor usually feel that way because

1) they were uncomfortable with raw HTML editing to begin with, and/ or, 2) they are trying to edit their *old* WOBuilder barely-human- readable ugly HTML templates which look really *horrible* when first viewed with the naked eye, having been hidden behind WOBuilder GUI Editor Interface for so many years :-)

So the first thing you should do when you open an old template from WOBuilder is do Command-Shift-F for an instant hierarchal structured layout. As you work with your old templates, doing a Cmd-2 R to refactor the names of your wo elements can make your WOComponents easier to work with too.

So, just give it a go for a few weeks and see how it works out. It has auto-completion, re-factoring support, active component structure in the Outline view, and Command-Shift-F instant cleanup and formatting.

You can double-click a tag to auto -select the start/end tags and all its wrapped contents, you can right-click Unwrap or Wrap that ... there is a lot of functionality in Component Editor what will make you far faster once you get up the short learning curve.

Search the wiki for docs on keyboard shortcuts, etc. and feel free to enhance those if you wish.

It is not a pure GUI editor in the style of Interface Builder, but it certainly is a kick-butt WOComponent Editor that does not hide the garbage HTML produced by the old WOBuilder.

So, go on, try to learn the keyboard commands and features and use it for a few weeks .... and don't forget, use Cmd-Shift-F on those old clunky WOBuilder component templates as you come across them .....

Cheers, Kieran

On Aug 15, 2008, at 10:31 AM, Mersida Kurti wrote:

Hi all,

My coworkers and I are wondering what everybody is using as a substitute for WOBuilder now that it is gone in WO 5.4. The graphical configuration within eclipse, we find, its horrible...anyone got anything else they're using, freeware or not?

Your responses are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Mersida

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