There is a "Preview (Experimental)" tab at the bottom of the component
editor, but if you are doing more modern CSS-based HTML layout, then
WOBuilder didn't help you there either - It actually kinda stood in
the way.
Now, graphical table editing, that was pretty killer. But now my
tables are much simpler that I'm using CSS for layout, which makes the
table-editing less important that it used to be.
I guess that's probably the best way to look at WOLips vs Xcode/
WOBuilder; WOLips is built to help you, and in some cases, force you
to, code the way you should be coding for modern web-apps where
WOBuilder let you get away with a lot of stuff that would likely hurt
you in the long run, even if it were simpler up front.
Sorry if my earlier message seemed a little abrupt.
Dave
On Aug 15, 2008, at 2:51 PM, Mersida Kurti wrote:
Thank you, we will give it another shot, we really don't have an
option :)
I agree that its ALOT easier to use, but at least WOBuilder gave you
the possibility to take a look at how the GUI would look like right
then and there...I'm not sure if Component Editor can do that.
--- On Fri, 8/15/08, Kieran Kelleher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Kieran Kelleher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WOBuilder substitute for Eclipse 3.3+ in Leopard
To: "Mersida Kurti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "WebObjects Dev" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 12:08 PM
I usually find that WO developers who initially feel uncomfortable
with Component Editor usually feel that way because
1) they were uncomfortable with raw HTML editing to begin with, and/
or,
2) they are trying to edit their *old* WOBuilder barely-human-
readable ugly HTML templates which look really *horrible* when first
viewed with the naked eye, having been hidden behind WOBuilder GUI
Editor Interface for so many years :-)
So the first thing you should do when you open an old template from
WOBuilder is do Command-Shift-F for an instant hierarchal structured
layout. As you work with your old templates, doing a Cmd-2 R to
refactor the names of your wo elements can make your WOComponents
easier to work with too.
So, just give it a go for a few weeks and see how it works out. It
has auto-completion, re-factoring support, active component
structure in the Outline view, and Command-Shift-F instant cleanup
and formatting.
You can double-click a tag to auto -select the start/end tags and
all its wrapped contents, you can right-click Unwrap or Wrap
that ... there is a lot of functionality in Component Editor what
will make you far faster once you get up the short learning curve.
Search the wiki for docs on keyboard shortcuts, etc. and feel free
to enhance those if you wish.
It is not a pure GUI editor in the style of Interface Builder, but
it certainly is a kick-butt WOComponent Editor that does not hide
the garbage HTML produced by the old WOBuilder.
So, go on, try to learn the keyboard commands and features and use
it for a few weeks .... and don't forget, use Cmd-Shift-F on those
old clunky WOBuilder component templates as you come across them .....
Cheers, Kieran
On Aug 15, 2008, at 10:31 AM, Mersida Kurti wrote:
Hi all,
My coworkers and I are wondering what everybody is using as a
substitute for WOBuilder now that it is gone in WO 5.4. The
graphical configuration within eclipse, we find, its
horrible...anyone got anything else they're using, freeware or not?
Your responses are greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Mersida
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