On 8. Jul. 2009, at 15:09 , Mike Schrag wrote:

seriously? I remember the exact inverse statements being made when, only four-ish years ago, they tied WO's release schedule back into the main development tools. I think it's good news, but hopefully it means that they'll stop developing their unnecessary deployment that virtually nobody uses and focus on the frameworks instead.
Oh, you mean that deployment style virtually everybody but a few folks are using should be dropped?
I've since reinterpreted Bill's comment to mean "everyone in the world of java" not "everyone in the world of wo" ... And I would agree with that,

Somehow - with that, yeah, it's possible to agree, if there were a better solution. But is J2EE a better solution? I don't think so.

I would love to see war deployment not suck and be less clunky -- I think switching to jar frameworks probably makes a lot more sense for j2ee deployment, for instance.

Right, but the problem here is not war deployment, because the really clunky parts are the J2EE app servers. This is another layer of complexity which sucks even more than the "traditional style".

cug
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