Much less harder than remembering the frigging name... The thing is neat mostly in the sense that there seems to be a no-learning curve for WO devs. But all the crappy release politics make it a total no-go, regardless of its other merits.
Cheers, Anjo Am 24.11.2009 um 21:58 schrieb Kieran Kelleher: > How hard would it be to make our own Gianduia? .... or to have similar > functionality using ERXRest framework and Cappucino, GWT, or sth like that? > Is Gianduia so revolutionary that we could never make something comparable in > Wonder? > > On Nov 24, 2009, at 3:50 PM, Anjo Krank wrote: > >> The obvious exception being Gwandalu...Guwundo... Hazelnut. But that is yet >> to be released, so it doesn't count in their favor. >> >> Cheers, Anjo >> >> >> >> Am 24.11.2009 um 21:21 schrieb Mike Schrag: >> >>> I was just in the midst of typing the same thing. Almost all of our new >>> deployments will be on Linux in a VM infrastructure. And I don't need Apple >>> to provide me anything. I can't really think of a WO enhancement that can't >>> be done by a 3rd party. IMO, for the past 5 years, the community has >>> brought far more interesting enhancements than Apple has. What are you >>> expecting Apple to provide to you that Wonder doesn't provide to you RIGHT >>> NOW, in an open development process. >>> >>> ms >>> >>> On Nov 24, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Anjo Krank wrote: >>> >>>> Jesus. Apple will do what they want. Nothing you, I or anybody else says >>>> or does will make much of a difference. Nor should we really care, it's >>>> not like they did something useful in the last 5 years or so. >>>> >>>> You sound like they were some sort of rain god. "Let's show we are loyal, >>>> or else HE might smite us like the flies we are!" >>>> >>>> Cheers, Anjo >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 24.11.2009 um 20:36 schrieb Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists: >>>> >>>>> If we want Apple to release new WebObjects versions, beyond 5.4.3, to >>>>> the community, the worst thing we can do is talking about Windows and >>>>> Linux. We should be very clear about this: if we expect Apple to do >>>>> anything for us in the regard, we should be loyal to Apple by only >>>>> developing and deploying on Apple equipment. Otherwise, I am afraid that >>>>> 5.4.3 will be the last version we will ever see... >>>>> >>>>> With Kind Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Dennis Gaastra, >>>>> Chief Technology Officer, >>>>> WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This message contains confidential information and is intended only for >>>>> the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not >>>>> disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender >>>>> immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and >>>>> delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be >>>>> guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be >>>>> intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or >>>>> contain viruses. 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No idea how good it is: >>>>>> >>>>>> /Wonder/Utilities/Adaptors/IIS/ >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH, Kieran >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 24, 2009, at 12:36 PM, Ralph Scheuer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello everybody, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> due to the fact that some of our customers use Windows servers, I would >>>>>>> be interested how others deploy their WO apps on Windows these days... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The wiki only refers to Apache when it comes to WO 5.4 on Windows and >>>>>>> does not mention IIS... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, some customers need specific IIS features like Single-Sign-On >>>>>>> via ActiveDirectory or do not want another web server for political >>>>>>> reasons. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How do you deal with that? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is it still possible to use the old 5.2 adaptors (CGI or ISAPI) with >>>>>>> modern IIS versions and WO 5.4? How about 64-bit-ness? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Would it be possible to set up WO 5.2 and just replace all the >>>>>>> frameworks with the 5.4 equivalents so that at least the CGI adaptor >>>>>>> (WebObjects.exe) from the old version works? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Has Apple ever released the source of the Windows adaptors so that they >>>>>>> could be recompiled for 64-bit IIS? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for your input. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ralph >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>>>> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >>>>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>>>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kieran_lists%40mac.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This email sent to [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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