And remember, this is java ... OOP ....... Wonder has proven that it
can patch, fix, replace, extend the apple WO classes, as needed and
fix bugs in rapid time. In fact, perhaps it is better that the
"revisions" to WebObjects are via the *open source* Wonder
project..... the fact that Apple engineers are actively committing to
Wonder says volumes in support of this being the preferred way to
continue to add functionality to WebObjects without any politics and
bureaucracy.
The only ones left behind are those not using Wonder (or something
similar).
My 5 cents (includes inflation due to recent bailouts diluting the
value of the $ ;-) ),
Kieran
On Nov 25, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Antonio Petri wrote:
I think the point of the discussion is that what Apple does to WO is
irrelevant. Apple WO+EOF is a stable, mature technology core; Wonder
is a community effort that is very actively developed, and whether
the Apple's development
stops or not it doesn't really matter. Wonder can continue to be
developed and enhanced, and in this
respect there is no difference in terms of chances of survival from
another open source project like Hibernate. If you
really like WO/Wonder and think that it makes you more productive
than other technologies, then you should stop
worrying.
-Antonio
2009/11/25 Martin Perez Barreiro <[email protected]>
after all the wording here I see no clear future and what is worse I
dont see how to support the idea of selling wo developments to
clients if Apple continues to give no signs of wo survival. After
all I have the feeling I will end up developing in spring+hibernate
+wicket (already started as a safe net...).
regards,
M.
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Kieran Kelleher
<[email protected]> wrote:
Getting back to the original productive(!) discussion (before David
Avendasora went crazy and started talking about seeing
Leprechauns!), if anyone out there has any experience of build some
Cappucino-talking-to-WO apps, maybe they might be interested in
presenting at WOWODC2010 .... I am sure that will be a "full session"
-Kieran
On Nov 24, 2009, at 5:20 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
You could certainly make apps in a JS front-end with restful
services with SproutCore or Cappuccino today. GWT is a little
trickier, only because you have to drink more kool-aid. As far as
REMAKING Gianduia, I think this would be a huge undertaking.
Certainly possible, it's not magic, but I wouldn't want to. It's a
ton of work to pull it off well. If you want to build that kind of
app today, I'd look at SC or Cap.
ms
On Nov 24, 2009, at 3:58 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
How hard would it be to make our own Gianduia? .... or to have
similar functionality using ERXRest framework and Cappucino, GWT, or
sth like that? Is Gianduia so revolutionary that we could never make
something comparable in Wonder?
On Nov 24, 2009, at 3:50 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
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