My thought exactly. The new user would not be sure if it will break something by moving things around.
-ck On Oct 7, 2010, at 7:45 PM, John Huss wrote: > YOU CAN DO THAT??? > > ;-) > > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Ricardo J. Parada <rpar...@mac.com> wrote: > > If someone wants it somewhere else, then maybe they can just drag it from > ~/Applications to wherever they want to put it in. > > :-) > > > On Oct 7, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Christos Konidaris wrote: > >> How about making it a preference in the installer, something like: >> >> a) for All Users (put it in /Applications), >> b) for this User only (put it in ~/Applications) ? >> >> This way the user should be in control, so everybody is happy and kittens >> will be spared. >> >> -ck >> >> >> On Oct 7, 2010, at 6:18 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: >> >>> Doesn't mean we need to be complicit in their terrible life decisions. And, >>> I would wager that developers would be tend to be more discerning with >>> respect to permissions. I think this is officially a religious argument at >>> this point. I nominate that Jeremy just does whatever makes him feel good >>> ........ with the knowledge that I'll kill a kitten if he puts it in >>> /Applications. >>> >>> Should we switch over to debating optimal code formatter preferences and >>> curly brace placement? >>> >>> ms >>> >>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:12 AM, David Avendasora wrote: >>> >>>> How do 99% of all Mac users run? I'm guessing as admin users (there's a >>>> little evil in all of us). >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Mike Schrag <msch...@pobox.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> That's because you either made it world-writable or you run as an admin >>>>> user, either of which is kind of evil. >>>>> >>>>> ms >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 10:53 AM, John Huss wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have put eclipse into /Applications forever and I've never had a >>>>>> single problem with permissions. I think that is a non-issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Kieran Kelleher <kelleh...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> David, >>>>>> >>>>>> I disagree with you and Timo, and I agree with Mike and others. ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> In summary 2 good reasons for installing in ~/Applications, considering >>>>>> that novice/intermediate users are the ones we are trying to make life >>>>>> easy for..... >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) Writeable Eclipse dir ... keep writeable in user dir. Prevent >>>>>> permission issues that 'stump' newbies into giving up too early. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2) Painless migrations to new machines >>>>>> >>>>>> -Kieran >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 7:54 AM, David Avendasora wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > I'm pretty against ~/Applications. Nothing installs there by default. >>>>>> > Why would we make an installer that's targeted at getting new users up >>>>>> > and running install in a place other than the normal /Applications? >>>>>> > Sure ~/Applications is _better_ but it's not _normal_. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > If they're advanced enough to want it in ~/Applications then they can >>>>>> > move it. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Dave >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Oct 6, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Jeremy Matthews wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I had no idea what I was getting myself into....heh. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> This is for newbies...generally speaking, so we'll do >>>>>> >> ~/Applications...maybe offer a choice...dunno yet. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> -j >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> On Oct 6, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>> I was the same until recently when I switched to a new machine and >>>>>> >>>> forgot to copy over eclipse for the umteen'th time. So I moved it >>>>>> >>>> to my home directory instead. >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> If eclipse kept it's plugins and other global config in my home >>>>>> >>>> directory I would have no reason to keep it there also. >>>>>> >>> welcome to one of the longest-standing debates in eclipse history >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> ms >>>>>> >> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/johnthuss%40gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> This email sent to johnth...@gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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