> MS ASP with Visual Basic. Still in use by many companies who didn't switch to 
> .net Platform :)

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On 2010-10-22, at 5:07 PM, "Joel M. Benisch" <j...@paperfree.net> wrote:

> MacApp is still in use by some, and it goes back to Object Pascal days (late 
> 1980s?).
> 
> C and C++ have been around for how long?
> And there are untold numbers of applications written in those languages that 
> are still in production.
> 
> Oh, and how long has UNIX been in production?
> Were most of us born yet when it first come out of Bell Labs?
> 
> And of course there is always the never ending life span of the underlying 
> foundation of windows, aka MS-DOS, but let's not go there.
> 
> Old tools and technologies are not necessarily bad, they are just old (ie: 
> Mature).
> If  you use them well to craft elegant code, the result will live and be 
> useful for a very long time.
> 
> Joel
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> On Oct 22, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Ken Anderson wrote:
> 
>> OK, how about non-mainframe technology :)
>> 
>> On Oct 22, 2010, at 8:55 AM, David BON wrote:
>> 
>>> COBOL :-p ?
>>> 
>>> David B.
>>> 
>>> Le 21 oct. 10 à 22:16, Ken Anderson a écrit :
>>> 
>>>> How is that a horror?  Name me one other technology thats lasted more than 
>>>> 5 years, forget about 20! :)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Stefan Klein wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Can't remember the exact years but:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1990 I started with NeXTstep on a black box
>>>>> 
>>>>> and then the horror began:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Operating Systems:
>>>>> - NeXTstep on several plattforms
>>>>> - OpenStep
>>>>> - Black Hardware dies
>>>>> - YellowBox (anyone remenber?)
>>>>> - YellowBox died
>>>>> - Next buys apple
>>>>> 
>>>>> WO:
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Started with WO 3.5
>>>>> - WebScript dies
>>>>> - Objective-C dies (I think 2001)
>>>>> - Last Windows Version WO 5.2
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now: Announcement  OS X JVM will die
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think we will survive that too!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stefan
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 21.10.10 21:29, schrieb Kieran Kelleher:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My 2 cents:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Relax, don't panic,  There is always a way forward. Look at        the 
>>>>>> positive.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am sure that in 5 years, much of this community will still be here 
>>>>>> developing WebObjects enterprise apps in Java 9 on "Mac OS XI Cobra"  ;-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Kieran
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Ken Foust wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have not seen a response form Mike Schrag and would hold most 
>>>>>>> comments until he responds.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But what do you think of CocoaWO now
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My opinion Apple needs to incorporate and brilliant enterprise web dev 
>>>>>>> app tied to Cocoa.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Ken Anderson wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Couldn't we just use the SoyLatte JVM for WO development?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Paulo Siqueira wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> +1 
>>>>>>>>> =p
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Well, I hear that Ubuntu is nice this time of year...
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> That was my thought as well, I swear :p
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> Paulo "JCranky" Siqueira
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