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On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Ramsey Gurley <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Oct 28, 2010, at 11:48 AM, David LeBer wrote:
>
>
>> On 2010-10-28, at 11:35 AM, Janine Ohmer wrote:
>>
>>  Thanks, guys.
>>>
>>> I think it's safe to assume that for both testing and developing WO one
>>> would be on a Mac.  Deployment could be on Mac or Linux.  I'm fine with
>>> overlooking Windows. :)
>>>
>>> The directions linked to from the front page of wocommunity.org have you
>>> use WOInstaller.jar to install WebObjects and then the turnkey installer to
>>> install everything else.  This seemed to work well;  I had a glitch with
>>> Frontbase and had to install it again by downloading directly from
>>> frontbase.com, but the concept seems sound.  However, there's no
>>> indication of whether it installs the latest of everything as of the moment
>>> you run it, or if it's a bundle that starts to go out of date moments after
>>> it's built.  It seems that the turnkey installer does more of the work for
>>> you than Golipse does.  So is there some reason why Golipse is better?
>>>
>>
>> Nope, no reason Golipse is better. Mike wrote a cool script, I wrapped it
>> in a GUI for fun. It works great for me, so I use it, but I'm sure you'd say
>> that I am atypical. ;-)
>>
>> If you are looking for a "give me everything I need" install experience,
>> the turnkey installer is probably better (assuming it is up-to-date).
>>
>>
>>> Is there any way to tell what version of Wonder is installed on a system?
>>>  I seem to have ended up with a fairly recent version of WOLips (3.6.6207)
>>> from the turnkey installer, but no clue about Wonder.
>>>
>>> And what about the database?  Frontbase is fine for trying it out, but do
>>> people still deploy with it?  And if not, what do you need to use Postgres
>>> or MySQL instead?
>>>
>>
>> DBs continue to be a religious discussion:
>>
>> Chuck stands by Frontbase for ease of installation/use.
>>
>> Lots of folks swear by Postgres.
>>
>> I use MySQL, but not religiously so.
>>
>> Kieran uses MySQL but I saw him flirting with Postgres the other day while
>> no one was looking.
>>
>> MySQL has a decent installer and I believe that Postgres does too, though
>> both require you to tweak the default settings if you are going to use them
>> in production.
>>
>
> Is there a list of those tweaks anywhere? (^_^)
>
> Ramsey
>
>
>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> janine
>>>
>>> On Oct 28, 2010, at 6:08 AM, David LeBer wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 2010-10-28, at 4:24 AM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> It depends on which Platform you are.
>>>>>
>>>>> Windofs : I have no idea. Never used
>>>>>
>>>>> Mac :
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Get Safari Extensions :
>>>>> http://www.webobjects.me/safari/woExtension/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Then Click on <PastedGraphic-2.png> and download Golipse, and
>>>>> Install and you are ready to go.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I need to clarify, because I've seen this repeated a couple times.
>>>>
>>>> Golipse ONLY INSTALLS THE TOOLS. It doesn't install the Webobjects or
>>>> Wonder frameworks.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to shout, but it IS kinda important.
>>>>
>>>> Since I am not a champion of keeping the WO frameworks out of the system
>>>> locations, I would use the WOInstaller.jar and the instructions found here:
>>>>
>>>> <
>>>> http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/Using+WOLips+With+Multiple+Versions+of+WebObjects
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> For Wonder I would use the latest stable build from:
>>>>
>>>> <
>>>> http://webobjects.mdimension.com/hudson/job/Wonder54/lastStableBuild/artifact/dist/Wonder-Frameworks.tar.gz
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  3. Yes of course you need a Database.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can download http://www.frontbase.com/ for free.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or you can use some kitty stuff like MySQL or so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope's that help.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2010/10/28, at 8:03, Janine Ohmer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hey all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been away for a while and as usual things have changed,
>>>>>> particularly with regard to installing WO on a new system.  I tried 
>>>>>> reading
>>>>>> the wiki but found some contradictory info, so I'm asking here for the
>>>>>> definitive answer (for a moment or two, anyway :).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's the best way to set up a system for:
>>>>>> - trying out WO without investing a lot of time
>>>>>> - setting up a development system
>>>>>> - setting up a deployment system
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm thinking of using the turnkey installer vs installing manually vs
>>>>>> whatever other options there might be out there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, how can one tell what version of Wonder is installed on a
>>>>>> system?  I tried out the turnkey installer and can't figure out what 
>>>>>> version
>>>>>> of Wonder it gave me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> janine
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> ;david
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> ;david
>>
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>>
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