MySQL is convenient if you deploy on OS X Server because it is already 
installed.       

Steve
 
On Oct 28, 2010, at 12:01 PM, John Huss wrote:

> http://pgfoundry.org/projects/pgtune/
> 
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Ramsey Gurley <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Oct 28, 2010, at 11:48 AM, David LeBer wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2010-10-28, at 11:35 AM, Janine Ohmer wrote:
> 
> Thanks, guys.
> 
> I think it's safe to assume that for both testing and developing WO one would 
> be on a Mac.  Deployment could be on Mac or Linux.  I'm fine with overlooking 
> Windows. :)
> 
> The directions linked to from the front page of wocommunity.org have you use 
> WOInstaller.jar to install WebObjects and then the turnkey installer to 
> install everything else.  This seemed to work well;  I had a glitch with 
> Frontbase and had to install it again by downloading directly from 
> frontbase.com, but the concept seems sound.  However, there's no indication 
> of whether it installs the latest of everything as of the moment you run it, 
> or if it's a bundle that starts to go out of date moments after it's built.  
> It seems that the turnkey installer does more of the work for you than 
> Golipse does.  So is there some reason why Golipse is better?
> 
> Nope, no reason Golipse is better. Mike wrote a cool script, I wrapped it in 
> a GUI for fun. It works great for me, so I use it, but I'm sure you'd say 
> that I am atypical. ;-)
> 
> If you are looking for a "give me everything I need" install experience, the 
> turnkey installer is probably better (assuming it is up-to-date).
> 
> 
> Is there any way to tell what version of Wonder is installed on a system?  I 
> seem to have ended up with a fairly recent version of WOLips (3.6.6207) from 
> the turnkey installer, but no clue about Wonder.
> 
> And what about the database?  Frontbase is fine for trying it out, but do 
> people still deploy with it?  And if not, what do you need to use Postgres or 
> MySQL instead?
> 
> DBs continue to be a religious discussion:
> 
> Chuck stands by Frontbase for ease of installation/use.
> 
> Lots of folks swear by Postgres.
> 
> I use MySQL, but not religiously so.
> 
> Kieran uses MySQL but I saw him flirting with Postgres the other day while no 
> one was looking.
> 
> MySQL has a decent installer and I believe that Postgres does too, though 
> both require you to tweak the default settings if you are going to use them 
> in production.
> 
> Is there a list of those tweaks anywhere? (^_^)
> 
> Ramsey
> 
> 
> 
> thanks,
> 
> janine
> 
> On Oct 28, 2010, at 6:08 AM, David LeBer wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2010-10-28, at 4:24 AM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It depends on which Platform you are.
> 
> Windofs : I have no idea. Never used
> 
> Mac :
> 
> 1. Get Safari Extensions : 
> http://www.webobjects.me/safari/woExtension/index.html
> 
> 2. Then Click on <PastedGraphic-2.png> and download Golipse, and Install and 
> you are ready to go.
> 
> I need to clarify, because I've seen this repeated a couple times.
> 
> Golipse ONLY INSTALLS THE TOOLS. It doesn't install the Webobjects or Wonder 
> frameworks.
> 
> Sorry to shout, but it IS kinda important.
> 
> Since I am not a champion of keeping the WO frameworks out of the system 
> locations, I would use the WOInstaller.jar and the instructions found here:
> 
> <http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/Using+WOLips+With+Multiple+Versions+of+WebObjects>
> 
> For Wonder I would use the latest stable build from:
> 
> <http://webobjects.mdimension.com/hudson/job/Wonder54/lastStableBuild/artifact/dist/Wonder-Frameworks.tar.gz>
> 
> 
> 
> 3. Yes of course you need a Database.
> 
> You can download http://www.frontbase.com/ for free.
> 
> Or you can use some kitty stuff like MySQL or so.
> 
> Hope's that help.
> 
> 
> On 2010/10/28, at 8:03, Janine Ohmer wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> I've been away for a while and as usual things have changed, particularly 
> with regard to installing WO on a new system.  I tried reading the wiki but 
> found some contradictory info, so I'm asking here for the definitive answer 
> (for a moment or two, anyway :).
> 
> What's the best way to set up a system for:
> - trying out WO without investing a lot of time
> - setting up a development system
> - setting up a deployment system
> 
> I'm thinking of using the turnkey installer vs installing manually vs 
> whatever other options there might be out there.
> 
> Also, how can one tell what version of Wonder is installed on a system?  I 
> tried out the turnkey installer and can't figure out what version of Wonder 
> it gave me.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> janine
> 
> ;david
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