On 15/01/2011, at 9:49 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:

> On 15/01/2011, at 2:12 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
> 
>> I'm all for Q's approach, too. For me, Ivy is the part of Maven that isn't 
>> so bad. You get the dependency management without all the other stuff on top.
> 
> And, of course, you can interpret 'all the other stuff on top' in one of two 
> ways:
> a) negatively, which seems to be the way this particular community keeps the 
> myth going that it'll be too much pain. (Perhaps certain people have a 
> hang-over from maven 1?).
> b) positively, as meaning all the additional benefits maven provides and with 
> less pain overall.
> 
> I found the latter to be true. :) Having everything is configured in your pom 
> file(s) and thus in version control (rather than requiring external configs 
> on differing environments), dependency management, proper build lifecycles 
> (with testing, integration testing etc), convention over configuration, lots 
> of handy plugins easily adapted. It's definitely worth a serious look.

I have looked at maven on more than one occasion. Maven tries to solve problems 
that I don't currently have, and makes some that I do have costly (in time) to 
readdress, at the expense of throwing away functionality and knowledge I and 
others already have invested in our current build environment. Ivy borrows 
concepts from maven to solve the problem at hand without being disruptive to 
the existing processes, therefore that's what I use. If maven is the right 
choice for you that's great, but it's currently not the right choice for me.

-- 
Seeya...Q

Quinton Dolan - [email protected]
Gold Coast, QLD, Australia (GMT+10)




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