On 11/03/2011, at 8:50 AM, Ray Kiddy wrote:

> On Mar 10, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
> 
>> Just finished glancing through a Scala book... how do you implement faulting 
>> with it? You know: Bar bar = foo.getBar(). The only thing I saw is 
>> continuation-passing, which is async by nature?
>> 
>> Cheers, Anjo
> 
> In order to use WO stuff with Scala you basically have to remove many of the 
> ideas behind WO first.

That makes no sense...

> Every access to an object in EOF is done via one enormous lock on the entire 
> framework. If you want the benefits of using Scala, you need to go to the old 
> idea that every editing context will need its own entirely separate EOF 
> stack. There is an obvious mis-match in the conceptual frames here....

The one giant lock is the problem whichever language you might choose. How many 
connections are open is a separate one.
Frameworks such as liftweb do not open an unlimited number of connections to 
the db.

> I actually think it would be more interesting to see an implementation of WO 
> and EOF in Clojure. It would be harder for people to wrap their heads around 
> Clojure, but it it is a dynamic language like ObjC, and one could actually 
> implement the concepts of WO and EOF in Clojure instead of subverting them, 
> as one would have to do with Scala.

What exactly would have to be subverted? Certainly there would be differences 
in the implementation should a dynamically typed lang be used, as WO used to be.
But NB: WO currently uses a statically typed language... which works.

with regards,
-

Lachlan Deck

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