The Dave's should jump in here with a Direct to DoJo or Direct to Cappuccino 
application with ERRest.

Paul
On Mar 12, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

> 
> Le 2011-03-12 à 16:05, Theodore Petrosky a écrit :
> 
>> I tend to use the Ajax Frameworks in everything. I really like how easy it 
>> is to add to my WO projects.
>> 
>> I seem to recall looking at SproutCore quite a while ago and I lost 
>> traction, but as there is no Chocolate :-( available I will check it out 
>> again. Maybe this time some more will stick.
> 
> You want to use SproutCore, Dojo or Cappuccino if you want to do a 
> desktop-like app and with most of the data processing to happen on the 
> client. If you want to only add some Ajax to your (stateful) pages, stay with 
> the Ajax framework.
> 
>> Thanks. Hope to meet youse guys this summer.
>> 
>> Ted
>> 
>> --- On Sat, 3/12/11, David LeBer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> From: David LeBer <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: not to start something but:
>>> To: "Theodore Petrosky" <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: "Pascal Robert" <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>>> Date: Saturday, March 12, 2011, 3:40 PM
>>> On 2011-03-12, at 3:21 PM, Theodore
>>> Petrosky wrote:
>>> 
>>>> so if you were to recommend another framework today
>>> that someone would start to sink time into, what would it
>>> be?
>>>> 
>>>> Ted
>>> 
>>> It depends on what you are trying to achieve I guess.
>>> 
>>> - The Ajax framework does a good job of allowing you to
>>> pragmatically add Ajax behaviour to existing WO apps.
>>> - You can roll your own UI using JQuery or some other JS
>>> framework to give you a leg-up.
>>> - SproutCore seems to have some traction for building rich
>>> desktop like app front-ends.
>>> - Cappuccino[2] is interesting and a very cool tech
>>> accomplishment especially if you are familiar with Cocoa,
>>> but it requires that you abandon all standard web tech when
>>> building your UI.
>>> 
>>> Both SproutCore and Cappuccino would probably be best used
>>> with an ERRest backend.
>>> 
>>> I'm sure there are others, anyone have anything else to
>>> share?
>>> 
>>> [1]<http://www.sproutcore.com/>
>>> [2]<http://cappuccino.org/>
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Pascal Robert <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Pascal Robert <[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: not to start something but:
>>>>> To: "Theodore Petrosky" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Cc: [email protected]
>>>>> Date: Saturday, March 12, 2011, 11:32 AM
>>>>> 
>>>>> Le 2011-03-12 à 11:13, Theodore Petrosky a écrit
>>> :
>>>>> 
>>>>>> what ever happened to gianduia? it like fell
>>> off the
>>>>> radar and disappeared. not a word from anyone. I
>>> was really
>>>>> expecting to see a video with something from last
>>> year's
>>>>> WOWODC.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ask Apple, they are the only one who can
>>> explain... And
>>>>> they won't. And so many JavaScript frameworks
>>> exist, someone
>>>>> will come up with something as good as gianduia,
>>> and not in
>>>>> Apple's hands, so that's even better...
>>>>> 
>>>>>> i even hesitate to press the send button on
>>> this
>>>>> email.
>>> 
>>> ;david
>>> 
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>>> http://tacow.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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