On May 6, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Kevin Spake wrote: > I had been looking at the WOWODC information and it is enticing. However, I > just attended a trade show in Vegas this month, so I don't think a trip to > Montreal that soon is likely. Too bad, I bet it's beautiful that time of > year. If I can be of any help in regards to a tutorial, let me know. Perhaps > I should start taking notes of issues and areas that seem to be lacking in > organized help. > > That would be a help. > > > > Kevin > > --- On Fri, 5/6/11, Chuck Hill <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Chuck Hill <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: InOverMyHead {"obviously"}; > To: "Kevin Spake" <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Date: Friday, May 6, 2011, 2:10 PM > > Then you have selected an excellent technology for you needs. It will be a > struggle at first, but there is a significant payoff. > > If you want, I strongly urge you to come to WOWODC in Montreal at the > beginning of July. It is an "all stuff, no fluff" kind of conference and > really, really worth attending. Montreal is also a very enjoyable city if > you have a family that you want to bring along, several of us make it into a > family vacation. > http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc11/ > > There have been many discussions over the last year about the need for a > WebObjects tutorial. Having the perspective of someone new to the > technology, you may be interested in helping drive this forward. > > Chuck > > > On May 6, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Kevin Spake wrote: > >> I chose WO exactly for the reasons you stated. My goal requires a large, >> robust, complex application. My hope is that the effort at the beginning of >> the process will pay off later on. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 6, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Chuck Hill <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Kevin, >>> >>> While we are always happy to have newcomers, I will point out that >>> WebObjects is not the right solution for all situations. It is a tool >>> intended for professional developers to make robust web applications backed >>> by a database. It is truly awe inspiring to see how quickly someone >>> skilled in WO and Direct to Web (D2W) can build out an application. People >>> talk of building a fully functional proof of concept app during a >>> requirements gathering meeting. Getting to that level of skill can take a >>> lot of time and effort and the learning curve probably feels more like an >>> over hanging cliff. If your needs are simple and your goal is to get >>> results quickly, then another technology may be more suitable. Lift could >>> be worth looking at, http://liftweb.net/. >>> >>> Regardless of which direction you decide to take, welcome to The List. >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>> >>> On May 5, 2011, at 9:47 PM, Kevin Spake wrote: >>> >>>> Subject says it all. >>>> >>>> I took a java programming class years ago. I did not continue with it. >>>> Since then, my only programming experience has been with Realbasic, and >>>> that too was years ago. Now, I've decided to jump into webobjects. I have >>>> eclipse and WO 543 on intel mac. I can run a simple "hello world" program. >>>> >>>> As I try to do the beginner tutorial here: >>>> http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WO/Hello+World+-+Your+First+WebObjects+Application >>>> I find myself stuck. The instructions say: "So, to add a variable to keep >>>> track of our visitors name, click on the 'Interface' menu bar item and >>>> select 'Add Key...'." >>>> >>>> I have no "interface menu bar item". I can't find it anywhere, nor can I >>>> find any instructions on how to add a variable. Do I just type it in? Is >>>> there a resource for total newbs using current WO implementation, or is it >>>> an 'idiots need not apply' type of thing? >>>> >>>> If this is the wrong mailing list, my apologies. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Kevin >>> >>> -- >>> Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development >>> >>> Come to WOWODC this July for unparalleled WO learning opportunities and >>> real peer to peer problem solving! Network, socialize, and enjoy a great >>> cosmopolitan city. See you there! http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc11/ >>> > > -- > Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development > > Come to WOWODC this July for unparalleled WO learning opportunities and real > peer to peer problem solving! Network, socialize, and enjoy a great > cosmopolitan city. See you there! http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc11/ >
-- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Come to WOWODC this July for unparalleled WO learning opportunities and real peer to peer problem solving! Network, socialize, and enjoy a great cosmopolitan city. See you there! http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc11/
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