I remember Nibble!

Yes, Pascal, you are pretty young for the community at 35!

I'm sorry I couldn't make WOWODC this year - lets start planning the next one 
so I can plan my family vacation around it :)

On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Ken Anderson wrote:

> It's honestly pretty simple.
> 
> Apple never makes statements about future products, or their plan for 
> existing products.  If you're holding your breath for that to happen, good 
> luck!
> 
> The community continues to maintain / upgrade WO in a way that is far better 
> than a corporation holding the reins.  Even for a currently sold commercial 
> product, what guarantee is there that it will be updated?  Or Open Source 
> projects that have little to no support when the champion has left it?
> 
> To me, just the fact that WebObjects has been around since 1996 (15 years!) 
> means that it has more legs than any other tool I can think of.
> 
> YMMV
> 
> Ken
> 
> On Jul 6, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Karl wrote:
> 
>> I don’t think that there is an issue about it disappearing.  The license 
>> allows us to use what we have now indefinitely.
>> 
>> The issue is about moving forwards and modernizing...
>> 
>> Karl
>> 
>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Robert B. Hanviriyapunt wrote:
>> 
>>> How about the continued availability of WO.  People can SAY that Apple 
>>> relies heavily on WO and thus it won't go away, but again it just feels 
>>> more secure knowing that it is officially true, and that WO will always be 
>>> kept out there so that I can put away my doubts that it will suddenly 
>>> disappear.  I'd just feel safer while we're all building on this platform 
>>> that it won't be pulled from under us.
>>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Jesse Tayler wrote:
>>> 
>>>> there has been official word-- you just gotta go back ten years and ask 
>>>> ernie prabhakar or something.
>>>> 
>>>> seriously, the official word is that WO is and shall remain WO and will 
>>>> never be open sourced or whatever.
>>>> 
>>>> I opine as well, but that's the way it is and shall be.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Robert B. Hanviriyapunt wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Who, if anyone, represents Apple on this mailing list?  When it comes to 
>>>>> questions of open-sourcing WO or the availability of WO, the answer 
>>>>> should be posted by an Apple official rep. in this mailing list.  Anyone 
>>>>> can opine, but I think the group benefits greatly when an official word 
>>>>> is heard -- second best to that is an "insider", even if not officially 
>>>>> charged by Apple to represent in the list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thoughts anyone?
>>> 
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